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Jeff White

Two at present and they're both from WA. We've got Lingers.

Yes I feel very similar. Except I've liked Freo, at least partly because they're not WC. Why aren't you keen?

A bit much Bowey...

I was expanding on the idea if we really want to trade up for Robey in my head, which might be partly activated by not loving the talent at 7 and 8 ... From above: Our F1 + 7 to WC for 2 + 13 That leaves us with 2, 8, 13 and GC F1 Then if we did 8 to Port for their F1 that would leave us with 2, 13, Port F1, GC F1 which is a better spread. All along we'd have to love Robey and Port would have to love an SA prospect. I agree with others that the neatest outcome would be to use 7 and 8, and retain the two F1s for next year for another hit at Humphrey or to take to a better draft. But I was just speculating alternatives.

There are quite a few SA prospects in Twomey's top 30. Five in the first 20 and nine in the first 30. I think that's a lot more than usual and SA won the championship, unbeaten. It's a curious position for Port to take.

Nothing. I'm assuming Port finish in a similar ladder position and the next draft is stronger. Port's F1 for 7 or 8.

The alternatives are far less desirable. I'm grateful Oliver and Petracca didn't go to any of them. That would have been a hard watch.

I wonder if Port would do F1 for 7 or 8 to get access to Schubert or Marsh?

And not just to Coaches

I like GWS, if we couldn't win the flag, I've hoped they do. That stays the same with Clarry at the club. I hope they win the flag and Clarry takes the Norm Smith. I'm less enthusiastic about Gold Coast.

I like GC, but I think I'll like them a bit less next year.

I think it's 8 and our F1 for 2 and 13 and we promise not to take WC's WA prospect at 7. Our F1 has a lot of value, clubs will think we finish 14th or worse next year. But we'd really want the player at 2 to do this.

2 is a lot more valuable than 3 because it's before any Richmond picks. And 3 is a lot more valuable than 4 because Richmond aren't going to trade their first pick but they would trade their second one. Despite points value, 7 and 8 isn't getting 2 and it isn't even getting 3 but it's too much for 4. Clubs will be thinking we finish bottom 6 next year, possibly bottom 4 or worse, so our F1 has a lot of value. They will also be thinking GC finishes top 6, possibly top 4 or better so that F1 has a lot less value. I think our F1 is probably about equal value with 7 and 8. Ask yourself whether you'd trade it for 7 and 8? Our F1 and 8 probably gets 2 and 13 provided we promise WC not to pick the WA guy at 7. We'd have to love Robey.

Ed Langdon is very good too.