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The next FC on Thursday should be interesting - GL to the Poisonous Female Dog " so what did you make of Jeff's comments regarding the Libba interview? PFD "I don't know what your talking about Gary, I haven't seen it, and you don't have any credibility in this matter".

Well the other way to look at this is; if he hadn't made that comment no experimenting would have gone on and we wouldn't have got that extra draft pick. I think if you asked most clubs if they would pay 500k for a number one draft pick they wouldn't be able to get the cheque book out quick enough.

Sure they didn't, I think you mean they didn't release stats. Sorry that was a smart#$%* comment. What I was getting at is that everything I've seen in our new coaching program is measured and analysed, the intra game would be no different. I think this is also about not giving away to much. It's like the supporter who criticises the club for the Deetv clip put up on the web site; gee, it didn't show anything about the game plan, how we will setup this year at stoppages etc, etc.

We have been crying out for someone to consistently do that for years, that makes me VERY happy

Thanks for the info Jack, I couldn't make it down there this year (sad face). I didn't hear any mention of Nicholson, did he play? Also, do you think some of Byrnes' dominance was due to us not having a good small defender to go with him?

Casey Demons supporter group, they are a dedicated bunch, their President came up to the Ballarat supporter group family day.

Only on Fox

Is techno speak for "need NBN". Disclaimer I'm 56 yrs young, so I may have no idea.

I've enjoyed listening to him the last couple of years as he is the Patron of the Ballarat Supporter Group

Can't find my score from last year, but I remember I lost a lot of form, I'd like to go back in the Barassi League and like Davey I think there is another good season in me.

CC said Northey had caught the train down a couple of times to watch training, also mentioned that Northey coached Neeld at Richmond.

I was just reading the Davey thread and I remembered Frawley said Aaron was enjoying his best preseason for some time but the most pleasing thing was seeing him hit up the forwards laces out all the time. So we may see Davey much more up the ground than in the forward pocket.

Just got back from the family day, around 300 people turned up to see James Frawley, Dan Nicholson and Tom McDonald. Also present were Chris Connolly, John Northey and Steve Moneghetti. There was a kids clinic and the normal signings and photos and around half an hour was spent with open questioning from Mona, CC and anyone who wanted to chime in. We've all read the reports from training but a couple of points I picked up were: - Dom Barry was 63kg when he arrived and has put on around 5kg already. - They spoke about the repeat effort training they had been doing and the one hr sessions on the watt bikes designed to increase their power and repeat efforts. When asked who was a standout they all said Nathan Jones is an angry man on a watt bike. - When asked how Jack Watts is going, Chip mentioned he has put on around 5kgs and I got the impression all 3 players really like having him in the back half. - Dan Nicholson said he was training for a HBF/wing position and expect to see a lot of players playing through that position. - it was mentioned that all/ most backs are expected to play 100% of game time. - Chip said if you are into Supercoach his smokey is Matt Jones and he would expect him to get a lot of games. - CC reminded us all Tom McDonald is still only 20. All in all it was fantastic to see and talk to the 3 players, they were all very obliging and spent around 3hrs with us, that's a fair effort as it is one of their few day's off. It was great to see Chip still hanging around at the end having a kick to kick with a young group of boys around 6 or 7 years old, one of whom was wearing a #8 jumper.

Ditto

Thanks FNQ, It does answer my question, it will be interesting seeing where positioning, experience and grunt fit into Neeld's team.

Hi FNQ, I don't post much but I always enjoy your training reports. Given you have had an opportunity to see a bit of training I'd like to know why you have Rodan as an emergency? Most reports have him as a standout especially in the clearance area, What makes the other options better?

LOL

I seem to remember someone saying in one of the reports from the NT, it will be a light week on the track for the boys.

I don't know about "at best", if we are expected to beat everyone below us on that list our draw then gives us 9 wins which would be around the 13th mark. We only need to beat a couple of the next tier teams to suddenly get us into contention for the 8. Belief and momentum are wonderful things and the kind of thing you can't factor into stats. I see the first few games as critical to our "best". Roll PA, Bombers and have a good showing against WC at the "G" and suddenly we are away. Contrast this with not winning a game until round 10 this year and I might just take a little of those odds being offered for us making the 8. If you also then factor in our improved fitness our "best" might surprise a few people.

Does anyone know if Viney is able to play in the finals? He 's not a Melbourne listed player

What's DUMB is perpetuating unproven media reports, the Publican denied it happened, from memory I think there was video footage that just showed him sitting at the bar. It's been alleged that the story came from a Collingwood supporter. So maybe an edit is in order.

Thank you learned colleague, for your most erudite reply, however I seek further and better particulars. When you say “ No its not.” Do you mean it’s not the legal system? Or it’s not based on argument? As to your statement “absolutely no apprehension”, I’ve felt apprehension whenever I’ve prepared a brief and appeared as an informant. I take issue with the “palpably wrong and defamatory” statement but it is illustrative of the system where definite sides are taken. You appear to have not understood the term “misrepresent”. For clarity; I meant the Defense is there to represent the client, not the truth. The term “economical with the truth” could have also been used. If the system were based on truth, then a Defense which came upon information that would find the client guilty, would readily give up that information to the other side. I look forward to the rebuttal.

It's called the legal system, it's based on argument, therefore it's about who tells the best /strongest story and not about the truth. Defence lawyers aren't the ones under oath and therefore misrepresent the truth all the time.

This is to good to resist, thanks for your insight "Aka".

One other thing though, when we talk about players not trying it's true they don't appear to be doing as much as other sides ie not giving 100%. I think many of the players have become comfortable with their level of effort and have convinced themselves they are trying. The problem is they need 120% of effort to go from trying to doing. From what I've seen this year only 6 players come to mind for sustained extra effort - Clark, Jones, Mackenzie, Nicholson, Magner, Couch and Bate. There have been signs occasionally from other players, (the co-captains are trying to get to 120% but I'll cut them a bit of slack due to age and injury). Unfortunately, the skill level and or speed of some of these players is not ideal but you can see the effort being put in. I know I'll cop some flak for Bate but I don't think he has been handled all that well and is well known for needing time to work into a season. I remember Jones was criticized for trying to do to much in his early days he still plays like that but has worked so hard on his game that he is a lot more successful at it these days. Sam Blease is another I've heard this said about, I'd say that's a good sign. So what about the rest? How do you get the extra out of them. Well that would be the coaching and conditioning staff's job wouldn't it? The players need to buy into it and they need to look at the effort of some of the players I've mentioned. A lot of negatives have been written about the Elite Teams program but I would think something similar would be in order about now. So what can we do? Supporters need to support, debate is healthy but it's a flawed system and requires opposing views with often the loudest and most emotional side winning. We have been set on a path for the next 3 years, it may take an extra effort from supporters to buy in and go the distance.