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Are you kidding?! Ricky Petterd? You think they will shop around Ricky? Come on, BB59. You're getting over excited and posting CRAZY things.

Um, they are a sh!tload better than us. We didn't need any incentive to lose. We're crap.

We lose to the 5th best team in the league, arguably the best midfield, and it is our lowest ebb in 30 years? You are being disengenuous. And the 'demonology' reference is a nice touch - attempting to look like someone who never reads the site (and therefore got the name wrong) and has only come on because you have been brought to breaking point. Make no mistake, and if this next statement makes my 'self-respect' dissolve then so be it, the actions of the FD since the Port Adelaide game have given the MFC the chance to have a serious crack at a flag. We will lose our 54th game since 2007 on Sunday. We 'deserve' that PP. But the rules are rigid, and if it were our 53rd loss next Sunday we would have thrown away an opportunity of a generation that was right in front of us, but we failed to take. Thankfully, the FD - of which you have doubts - are not as precious and shortsighted as yourself and have done the right thing by the MFC and its supporters.

You're right. The beeps get quicker until you reckon they are just having you on, and then you go over to the side and throw up...

Where were you last week? Lose by ten goals and rubbing your hands together because you get to dust off your D'Land account and stick the knife in. Well, more fun for you next week - we play the Saints. By all means, come out of the woodwork and tell us how bad Bailey is to lose to them aswell. For everyone else, because AO is just a troll, my worst fear (and I expressed this with H, HT, 45HG16, RR and others) is coming into this season was that we would finish on 5-7 wins and have useless wins toward the end of the season. Bailey has had the cajones to ensure 4 and put us in the best possible position from what was an impossible situation.

He's no Newton... The one who has no flaws...

Hatred?! The bloke is a 6'10 winger-trying-to-play-ruck who is constantly beaten in one-on-one contests with smaller and lighter opponents, his tapwork is adequate but nowhere near Jamar (and that is saying something). His only chance of staying long term is as a back-up to a better ruckman. But Martin is a more competitive animal in the middle, is far more versatile, and two years younger. If that is 'hatred' then so be it.

No, no. Continue... Have a go at the dual AA captain of the club... Or the FD that has given a reprieve to to that player while cutting 2500 games of experience since 2007...

The most accomplished MFC player of the last decade besides Neita gets 1 more year and you froth at the mouth like this?! Again, we have moved on 2500 games worth of experience since 2007. Giving the skipper an exception to the cull is fine by me, especially considering the need to space out deletions over the next few years. This year is the first of four compromised drafts.

If we take anyone from Casey then Valenti will be on the list. We should be looking at an OOC youngster and if no-one desirable is their give the spot to Spencer or Valenti.

They have saved one player from the mass cull they have had on since 2007 and they are 'kidding themselves'? Please...

I believe those 23rd men have to be TAC Cup players. And isn't Stockdale a Casey regular. And i'm pretty sure that is an older Gotch and not in the TAC Cup. Not a big deal but just thought I would point it out.

Yes, however, both players have had to endure many of their supporters demanding that they abandon their delusions of becoming midfielders. Both are now accepted mids, at 28 and 26... Up until this year had people saying they should be tethered to the goalposts.

I don't think some on here realise how much experience we have moved on since the end of 2007: Pickett (204), Bizzell (163), Brown (146), Carroll (71), Yze (271), White (268), Godfrey (105), Holland (191), Johnstone (160), Neitz (306), Ward(136), Robertson (226), Whelan (148), and Wheatley (134). That is over 2500 games of experience in a competition where you can only improve by 484 games each year. With Macca staying next year we will have around 2000 games experience. What I am saying is that we have, in the Bailey era, always erred on the side of moving players on. If they see Macca with a role to play and he thinks his body can go around again, then the club should be able to make an exception, if you could call it that for the most accomplished player on our list, for the skipper.

I see Franklin as more of a CHF. And your second point is what I was alluding to - it's not overt racism but when people are so dismissive of a 20 year old who is 192cm and averages 2 goals a game, then you have to ask questions as to why they are so dismissive. The comparison I used was very deliberate because there seems to be an issue where if you are indigenous and talented you should be a FP because other roles are beyond you. I was merely saying that being an elite winger is certainly not beyond Davey, just as Jurrah can progress to being a very dangerous FF.

War reference? Really? Stirring speech to be sure and I have already said my bit in the other thread but fuschia... Diggers they ain't.

KC - Those are not the right '23rd' men. Stockdale certainly isn't and being close to the Gotch family, I don't think that is Seb Gotch (talented footy player and great cricketer) and the older Gotch is at Willy but certainly wouldn't be a TAC Cup player. Don't know where the info is from but it looks erroneous.

Some of you are very late to the Bater parade. Everyone has 'their men' if I have anyone it is Plodder. Where were you all when we were awful earlier in the year and the forwardline was starving and everyone was blaming Bate for going hungry? And Plodder is slower than glacial movement, but he is strong, smart, hard-working and better than many think. So everyone rushing to his side, don't worry I've got this one. Move along.

I want 5 minutes of my life back... Oh, I'd just waste it anyway...

Slight tangent: Does everyone remember Davey when he first appeared - quick and dangerous but very limited in what we thought he could do (and should do, considering some on here as late as a few months ago thought he had regressed since 2004 and should play FP all the time)? He has blossomed into one of the best wingers in the game and easily our best player. His heavy tag will become lighter in a few short years and will become even more dangerous than he is now. In many ways I see a correlation with LJ with regard to FF. Many questioned whether Davey could make the transition to midfield as many are saying that LJ is too slight or too short to play FF. I know there aren't (m)any indigenous FFs. I think he can do it; with help from Watts, Bate, Wonaeamirri, Sylvia, and Petterd. And some decent delivery.

He said everything you wanted to hear, 45hotgod16... A group of brothers brought together by winning, torn apart by the great inevitable, and sharing a common fate with one exception... Or at least we all hope there will be one exception...

Or that we are trying to lose. We are crap, they are good. We will lose...

One Brad Green came very close to leaving 10 months ago. IF he wants to go and we there is a suitable trade, then good luck to him. IF it falls through and he stays here, well good luck to everyone. Medium to strong chance to still be around when we arrive in our window but developing Meesen or Spencer as the pure ruckman would be the most desirable as they will be 27 and 24 respectively when 2013 gets underway (Jamar will be 30 that September).

These three players are going to have an interesting off-season, as I really have reservations about their futures and where the club rates their talents. Add PJ, Bell, and Newton. We will see what happens in October...

I've already said my bit when it comes to Robbo throughout the year, so I won't be any more effusive about this very good player than I already have been. Very happy to hear Bailey and the FD happy to get Robbo to another club if there is one out there. Not going to be easy for anyone if he plays us but if another year of footy is out there for him, he should seek it and we should be proud.