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No. He is our CHF in our flag tilt. (If he isn't please tell me who) We need to pump games into him, and if it is to the detriment of our win/loss record, well, so be it. I have already said that we could win 12 games next year, wtih a favourable draw, but I want to see our talent exposed to the AFL.

Exactly. I don't want to finish 8th if it means we are sacrificing development toward 2012 and after. The clearest example is Miller/Newton over Watts. Both, arguable with Newton, would give more in 2010 than Watts, but neither should play if the decision is to leave out Watts. Scully should come in to, we need to pump games into our talent and push Bruce, Green and Macca into peripheral roles such as HBF, FP, and BP respectively.

His last 6 weeks were solid. He will play BP and a little on ball and play most games.

B - Bruce Frawley Rivers HB - McDonald Warnock Garland C - Davey Scully Morton HF - Sylvia Bate Watts FF - Green Jurrah Wonaeamirri R - Jamar, Grimes, Moloney I - McLean, Jones, Martin, Petterd E - Bennell Jetta Maric

I don't like speculating on current players but if Nathan were keen to move and we agreed we could ask for a pick between 8 and 12 in this draft. Any other draft and it would be 12 and 18 using my rudimentary math. Jones and 18 might get 6 if Sydney are looking for ready made players.

Every draft except 2009 has a full year block. That is just common sense. And the dates won't be changed back. And 2010 will just be another normal draft except the best 12 from a four month block have been taken by GC17. And can we put up a sticky. Because I am getting frustrated...

Read. My. Signature.

No he doesn't. He said he needs to step up over the summer and finally do some work in the gym. Otherwise, he will be gone at the end of next year.

Some on here would see a conspiracy if they woke up and they were out of cornflakes. Tanking against St Kilda?? What delusional arrogance. Get away from this nonsense. We are an awful team that might have, with a bit of luck, won 6 or 7 games. Lucky, Bailey and Co. have massive cajones and got us 4. Next year we will be better, but I don't want to win 11 games if it means Watts only plays half the year. He is the future, and I would sacrifice a 8th spot for 12th if it meant a full season for J Watts on a wing/HFF. Next year is still about development.

I got to the part where you said you didn't particularly like James McDonald and my eyes glazed over. I don't see how any MFC supporter can not like Junior. Two Blueys and an AA selection... Just lost a little faith in humanity...

Maybe you shouldn't say this. Just a thought. Maybe you should look at the fact that we are so crap right now because our picks in 99 and 00 were taken away from us because we were found guilty of cheating. When I talk to Carlton supporters I mention the fact that they are very lucky to have a bloke prop them up, and I wonder when the drip will be pulled? And they mumble some jibberish and we all move on in life. Playing Frawley forward, and playing Jurrah on a wing isn't a hanging offence, I am very happy with where my head is on this and I don't care what Jon Ralph or anyone thinks of us.

Grimes or Morton and 18 for Pick 5? In this weakened draft? You are going to far the other way. Jones would do it by himself. Almost.

They will have to change the dates of eligibility again for the year after next. I doubt they will do that again. They will just give the priority over 12 like the GC gets. I don't know why you are asking this question two years out... You may be confusing the 'priority out of draft selection of 12 kids' with the 'dates of eligiblity' changes for this year.

Pick 50 is pick 75 in a normal draft. If you want to know why - read my signature. I seriously doubt we will use pick 50.

You are betraying your preciousness here. I assume you are referring to PJ playing on that superstar Nathan Brown for 15 minutes, and Frawley playing forward for a quarter and a half, in a game we lost by a goal after (if it was after) the siren? Jeez, that moral high-ground is extremely slippery... We are crap, and we 'deserve' our picks.

It is the easiest thing in the world to pick which talented 18 year olds will become better players than others. That is what I am gleaning from the nonsense in this thread.

I agree he is ahead of others that are safe. But it isn't as simple as that - Valenti is a second year rookie, is has to be delisted from the RL or elevated by the end of this year. Those are the only two options. If the FD cannot find a spot for him he will go into the draft, and as CB has already stated, I hope a club looks very hard at him.

Please explain this. And mention Brent's lack of worth as a Captain compared to others.

Agreed. Hopefully, Hutchison is wrong and it will happen now. It's only affirmation and belief in a vision if it happens this year. If he gets 1 more year sometime next year it looks like we don't think he's up to it and we are hedging our bets.

B+F's don't give a player more votes for an exceptional game over a good game. McLean, Jones, Morton, and Frawley will be rewarded because of their consistency over the season IMO. We will see...

Davey, Moloney, Bruce, McLean, Jones, Frawley, Bate, Morton, Grimes, and Sylvia. Pretty close to order, I would think.

Amen. Some on here are betraying their footy IQ...

They should have made Matty Bate stretch his ribs before playing. Idiots...

I only want to give him 2011. All those in favour of waiting till next year will either be guaranteeing Bailey is gone, or gets to coach in 2011, 2012, and 2013 - PURELY on what the Demons do in the first half of 2010. That is an irresponsible way to run a club. Give him an extra year now.

We will lose. Pithy.