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Everyone gets a clean slate... Except players I don't like.

I like the emblem. We are a try hard, overly complicated club and we don't need a cereal box mascot for an emblem - we need to embrace our heritage in our emblem and then leave it there and move on to trying to win footy games. Marketing can be done but if you want to convince kids to be Demons - getting Howe, Jones, Tyson and Hogan fit and firing and in the media will be better than yet another 'fierce' looking Demon like the one in my avatar.

There are only so many ways you can go with hell spawn. If you are truly worried about the image of our mascot - you should be advocating a move away from the Demon. 'Hey kids, look at this evil looking thing! Please like us!' PSD is right - become a decent footy club that plays exciting footy and has some personality and personalities and you will get the kids to be Demons. Not a new emblem and marketing campaign.

So you reckon that telling them to go for 'the Demons' will get them on board? Bit scary. Kids follow players they like. Howe, Franklin, Rioli, Dangerfield, etc. They also follow who they are told to follow. They don't pick a logo that looks like something out of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (god rest its soul) and go for a team. If we were going to use the moniker of the club to sell it - we should have picked a more family friendly mascot... de·mon/ˈdimən/ Show Spelled [dee-muhn] Show IPA noun 1. an evil spirit; devil or fiend. 2. an evil passion or influence. 3. a person considered extremely wicked, evil, or cruel.

Yeah, it was never an either/or situation in my mind. I like the arrogance of the emblem. Collingwood has the Australian flag for crying out loud... Get a Demon logo and do what you will with it. Leave the emblem as it is.

The old CBA stipulated that 'last year injuries' would get a payout and I know that his injury is related to something that happened in 2012 but how that is treated is not simple. The new CBA hasn't been released for some reason - so I can't say for certain what would be expected of the club in this situation.

Yeah, the laws have changed so they are running out a few ways to get our agreement to the T&Cs to send us stuff. And, yeah, its a brand survey but move on from the emblem. I just feel like this is a waste of time - we do this every few years, it upsets some people, others like it, and then we get used to it and do it all over again. The footy over the next few years will define us, not some beefed up, 'fierce' Demon if that's what they are thinking...

I have already put my thoughts into the ether. Doesn't matter what we think really. Wouldn't have a clue what will happen. But players sign agreements when they come into the industry and Essendon weren't the only ones that failed these men - they failed themselves. And escape from punishment should not come because there are no failed tests - Lance Armstrong never failed a test. And escape from punishment should not come because they didn't keep (or managed to destroy) records of what was injected. Apparently, evidence gathered points to banned substances. And escape from punishment should not come because their trust in their employers was misplaced. No other sport would have such a large loophole of rewarded ignorance. But what will happen? Who knows.

Not sure of hyphen, but Mr Bean has already been told it would seem from the training report. Good luck to him. And to the four mids we got of various talent, age, and experience - please help Jonesy in there.

He had OP as an 18 year old and then did his quad a couple times and then was in the preliminary AA Squad of 40 before his 22nd birthday. He missed 8 games in the three years before he came to the MFC. Again, you can allude to whatever you like, but don't delude yourself into thinking that Clark brought this freak injury on himself or that he was already an injury plagued player when he arrived - he wasn't.

Not every sentence has to end with an exclamation mark!

A journo is a journo. Those that knash teeth are as lost as those that laud. She is trying to sell a show/papers/herself. WGAF?

I think that laughter is very meaningful. I gave you the chance to show some self reflection and you obsfucated. I lol'd at you simply living out your life script. The end. Cue dismissive and snide remark...and close. Good job people. That's a wrap.

People have been treated by this club to so many poor decisions and instances of bad culture that they wouldn't know what a good culture looks like, and the way a good club carries itself. Here's a baby step: Don't confuse being heartless for being ruthless.

Your allusions betray your delusions. Clark came to this club and looked worth every cent of his wage and more than the Pick 12 we gave up. His lisfranc dislocating was a freak occurrence that happened because God Hates Melbourne. Roos knows how to build a club and a culture and it, in no way, involves being as heartless as you seem to want this club to be. We are his employers and he has had a rough trot with injuries, if he is suffering from a rough personal life then more power to the club for trying to help him through his issues. How having a desire for a cohesive and inclusive club culture can descend to 'accepting mediocrity' is an argument of the lazy and snide.

Shrinking violet? lol I wonder if Toumpas will play this week. He might be a chance...

What does this mean, though? He hasn't done anything wrong, has he? We gave him the contract. Bad luck has given him the initial injury. His personal issues are coming at a time when he was injured anyway. What are his ills that he 'doesn't get out of jail' for?

Well, one opinion comes to mind... lol Bring on the footy.

Yes, although you have been happy to 'call' the opinions of others in this very thread.

Although, you were the one that put forward the notion from one of your recruiter buddies Nathan Buckley that players can't be properly compared until the end of their careers.

We are there. You can't feel it under your feet?

For the lifetime subscribers - try to give a few bob more every year.

Salary options?

We require a KPF, not just someone who is tall. He has his new role, we have depth players at KPF - namely Fitzpatrick and Pedersen.

Stuie - the mods merged the threads formally but they were already filled with the same stuff. Whether one sees it as realism and strategic or cold and snide. Your positive message would be lost on here anyway; players should not read this site.