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46 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

That’s not the issue, at various points most have agreed with those points. The problem lies in the lack of in-depth analysis. There should be a show that spends 15-20 minutes on the 4 main games of each round and 5-10 on each of the other 4. Some analysis beyond 3 glammed up clips trying to prove a point. 
I’d call it AFL On Monday. I’d have Hoyne, Me and 3 others (no one springs to mind sadly) and we’d get deep, both technically and spiritually in our analysis. They’d be no Ralphy, no Brereton, no Robbo, no King, no Huddo and The Bounce would be axed. We’d replace On the Couch and AFL 360 and we’d be on on Monday and Thursday (Wednesday if there was a Thursday game) Post and Pre total analysis. We’d rate the absolute shizzle off the crud currently on offer. The start and end credits would be the best plays/marks/goals of the week. We’d go to training, wade through stats and flesh out the meaning of them. Can’t believe it hasn’t been done already. Oh and no ads.
7-9pm

Weren’t you the one on here running about telling everyone ‘Kozzie is off, Kozzie is off!’

Not sure I would watch your show…

I didn’t know the AFL Commission was funded with government money…

14 minutes ago, Redleg said:

The pity now is we could win all three and still cop a final at the Gabba, if the Lions also win their last three with a better %.

Unfortunately I am a spilt milk sort of guy and keep looking back at the Giants, Dockers and Port games.

Anyway, we will be barracking hard for Lions’ opponents the next three games.

If the Pies lose to Geelong this week, and then your Lions ‘suddenly win everything’ form shift scenario happens; we will be top 2 anyway.

I hope Freo only beat WCE.

Some on here abandoned the ride - if we lose top 2 it’s because we lose top 2.

We have two games at the G and then Sydney.

We should win all three of those games. 

The Lions have the Crows and the Saints at the Gabba but the Future Premiers at Marvel.

And Port have GWS and the Tigers at home and Freo over there but you won’t see me barracking for Freo.

We are now in a top 2 position - it’s ours to lose.

9 minutes ago, Skuit said:

Why would we pay Port to take Grundy if we want to keep him and he requests a trade? Why does everyone keep talking about his existing contract in relation to this scenario? Am I missing something? 

To help pay his $650k that we owe.

5 hours ago, A F said:

I'm not sure that was the case. He was pushed out the door and didn't want to go at all.

5 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

That is exactly what happened, but a lot have short memories I think.

How do you two think he was ‘pushed’?? He was told he wouldn’t play.

5 minutes ago, A F said:

It'll be for Smith, unless we cop injuri

Did you just cop an injury?

3 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Brodie has been informing you of what he wants has he?

No, but he left his previous club in large part because he didn’t want to be a back up. So I can guess. You don’t seem to care.

3 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

 

Of course we have one and will keep him for the next few years.

Ok then. What Brodie wants would be immaterial?

46 minutes ago, Kent said:

who then is our backup ruck ?

 

Grundy is not sticking around to be back up. 

Max and the FD need to have a discussion in early October about whether Max wants to play for 2 more years or until one his knees goes, or whether Max wants to have some discipline applied and turn into a FP that rucks for a third of the game.

If that is too hard and Max was just humouring everyone last October then pay $200k for Port to take him and go and get a 22 year old lump from somewhere.

12 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Yes I think it's a great test.

The inclusion of Oliver and Fritsch on top of the current best 22 that's in really good form could really set us up well for finals.

The big watch for me is the form of Petty and JVR as forwards. It's a big ask for JVR but if these two lads can really hold down the forward key posts then we're going into finals well prepared with our offensive structure.

On JVR - Grundy should really be backing himself to provide more than a 20 year old forward/back up ruck… whether he gets the opportunity I don’t know.

The other point around playing teams that will be playing to win is that we get to avoid teams that just park the bus. Carlton and Sydney will be playing to win and that is a great primer. The Hawks will want to show us up like they did the Pies, they are getting ND3 regardless so Mitchell can go for it.

Really need the Tigers to get back to winning. GWS have their pick and prefer to get country Vic kids. 

Right now they have ND6 and ND12.

Very close to ND4 and ND15… 

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

The Hawthorn game is now a danger one for us. 

Just shows you have to be on your game every single week.

I think it’s great for the last 3 games to be against very competent sides that will try to play some footy against us. 

1 hour ago, Flag 2021 said:

I freely admit that I was sceptical about Milkshake's return after the Fritta injury but he has established himself as an integral part of our (recently) developed forward structure.

So much so that - and I know I'll cop  it for saying this - Jake should remain in the side instead of him.

He apples more pressure than Fritta fo one thing and for another we should not try to squeeze Fritta back into a fully functioning forward setup. Can't [play them both in the same team for mine.  Besides, Jake can't be far off 100 games for us.

And on a completely unrelated topic : will Richmond be in trouble for tanking this round. They pulled Cotchin which is maybe OK but Dusty? Resting him at this stage of the year? Come off i!

Not many have defended Melkshams possible roles in this team over the year and he has been just great the last 6 weeks. But Fritsch is a match winner and our best forward. He was obviously playing with a foot injury that then gave way so his form was down on previous output. 

I wonder if Fritsch can come in at the expense of someone other than Melksham but if Bayley is ready to go - we have to find a spot for him.

3 hours ago, binman said:

All good points, well made.

My thinking abour spargo coming back in as much about what I think goody will do, rather than my own assessment of him.

My gut feel is he has been at vfl level to work on his tank and get it to the level it needs to be to play the role tmac says is 'by far the hardest in football'.

That’s fair. And he may be down to work on things that circumstances dictate he may never get to redeem because of various things that Goodwin may not have foreseen; the form of others and a new structure that highlights ‘medium’ forwards more predominantly.

Which means you could be right but never validated. Another one of those felines from Schrödinger.

2 hours ago, binman said:

Yes.

But, personally I'm not a huge fan of the 'if player x comes in, who comes out' game. 

And even less a fan of the more aggro variant 'you can't just say player x comes in without saying who comes out'.

For one thing, statistically I'd be guessing more often than not a best 22 player has to miss any given game thru injury.

And if we are talking finals, we'll that is 6 weeks away. So anything can happen on that front.

And secondly, it doesn't nessarily have to be a like for like swap. Roles can be juggled, particularly in modern footy where you don't have a back or forward six - you have a back 7 or 8 and and forward 7 or 8.

Thirdly, even if a direct swap it will be for a role not a generic position eg forward for forward.

Case in point, Spargo. Spargo, who I firmly believe will come back in by finals, is not in competition for say chandlers spot as even though they ate both small forward,spargs is really only nominally a forward and they play very different roles.

Spargo's role is the high half forward role, which involves running up and down the ground all game and providing defensive cover, an outlet option on transion and the last kick inside 50.

Whereas Chandler's best role is as  pure crumbing, small forward that kicks goal. Of course, like all players he works up and down the ground, but nowhere near to the extent of chandler (and even less again than nibbla).

We don't want Chandler gassed all the time, we want him explosive and ready to pounce. Same goes for koz.

Spargs and nibbla can do the 16-17km per game donkey work that frees up our goal scorers to go to work - a point I have heard tracc make on several occasions.

Re: spargo - I think your belief is going to be shaken. All the Speed Forwards (as they are known to Staffords setup) have different attributes; Spargo would not play like Chandler because he won’t be able to. As you say, Spargo’s value is in his delivery into the forward line, Chandlers is his pressure presence and instincts in the forward line.

Melksham, ANB, Pickett, Chandler, and Spargo would have some consistent KPIs in the team (pressure acts, discipline in zone, kms, contests attended etc) but then they would be judged on the other parts of their game and what they bring (Melksham shut down role or decoy, ANB on stoppage effectiveness assisting CP5 and defensive side contests attended, etc).
 

With Spargo it would be involvement in scoring chains, maybe defensive contests attended, turnover scoring chains involvement, etc

I just don’t think his form with the footy, and when we have the footy, has been good enough this year. And I honestly don’t know who he removes from the team if Oliver and Fritsch are right for finals. 

3 minutes ago, D4Life said:

I bet nearly everyone will be deliriously happy if our Demons can win the next seven games and most importantly the last three!!

I don’t care as long as win our last game of the year.

41 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

While I agree, the club might feel that Smith needs to play a full game. With no Casey game this weekend, this is the only option. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Tomlinson is the sub. 

That would make a lot of sense.

9 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

This thread should of been shutdown. It could end up being immaterial where Freo finish...15 ,14, 13 or 12th.

North is lobbying for priority picks so theyll likely pinch a player we wanted. And what about the Eagles??

Atleast Norff is likely to put the 'cue in the rack' after half time. They certainly wouldnt want to beat 4th on the ladder and lose their priority pick.

13 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Take your point, particularly your last one in regards to Adelaide possibly beating Brisbane on a 6 day break coming back from Perth.

However, I'd much rather Brisbane lose this week irrespective of Freo's draft pick standing. I really don't want us to get into the scenario where a random Charlie Cameron goal in the last quarter of round 24 knocks us out of the top 2 on percentage. Best to keep it simple and maintain a 1 game buffer on them if at all possible rather than scoreboard watching for the last 3 weeks.

 

That might keep us winning games that scoreboard watching…

I want ND4. I also want to finish 2nd, but that is entirely within our grasp - If we win our remaining games- which we should - we will finish 2nd. Regardless what Freo does.

So go the Lions and Power when they are in Perth!

19 minutes ago, FarNorthernD said:

Hang on Fremantle still have pick 21. Where have they been hiding that? I want that too. C’mon Freo, hand it over. 

NM pick for Logue and Tucker from memory 

5 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

now you’ve influenced the result. 

I neither agree nor disagree.

2 minutes ago, binman said:

He's being traded to rhe cats?

Short answer no, long answer yes. 

No one is ‘lathering up’ okay??

Yeah, not certain Spargo comes back.

Also they have to bring back Sparrow and keep someone to drop for Oliver…