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55 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

What month is trade period again....

There’ll be one in July soon I reckon

2 minutes ago, Waverley said:

He might as well have season out, no value in playing this bloke, no value at all

Same with Mihocek.

I’ve been on a sailboat for two months and am just getting on top of the news. Utterly unaware of anything that has happened on the footy field.

Now back to Mihocek - what a waste of $1.5m over 2 years. He’s 32?!!

There’s no value in playing this bloke

No value at all

Unless we are winning of course then there is inherent value in anyone who can help us win games especially with a young team over a long season.

But other than that.

Again, I have been incommunicado for 2 months as I said.

Don’t get me started on Jack Steele

17 minutes ago, sisso said:

we ended up doing No Nut November instead

45 minutes ago, poita said:

It has been great to see Latrelle looking more composed and comfortable with ball in hand over the past few weeks. That extra time to make a good decision is making a world of difference to his effectiveness.

His defensive work, or lack thereof, is a massive concern for me. I watched him very closely at the ground on Sunday and he is completely disinterested in being accountable for an opponent, even when he pushes up the ground.

When Latrelle does have an opportunity to apply pressure, he is happy to hang a couple of metres back, rather than making a tackle. Four of six games to date with zero tackles is not good enough for his role. I know they are not the same player, but Kozzie had 16 tackles in his first 6 games, Latrelle has 4.

I suspect he would be refining his game at Casey by now if we had better depth in that position.

He should have more tackles, but he had as many ‘pressure acts’ as Chandler on the weekend. We probably are playing him early but that’s because we are not a great team.

But in terms of what he does when we don’t have it - they are obviously playing a deep ‘Demon Web’ across centre wing back to the D50 to get the long kick and then close hands to give time for forwards to get up the ground, and spread from that contest to then kick goals through counter attack. In that plan, a forward doesn’t ’defend an opponent’ they guard space and then collapse on footy in contest. So I disregard that criticism wholly and with prejudice.

1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

And as @whatwhat say what says, not having a Marvel home game. Same logic as Richmond selling games to Tassie this year - if we are going to have to host a game at Marvel, the club may say “may as well make a stack of cash by selling that to the NT”.

This would be the circumstances. Make money instead of a loss.

All non-tenants to Marvel have to play there at least once so exemption from that.

Nuffies will hate it but Dees fans don’t go to Docklands so it’s just a game they won’t go to in a different place

I have no issues with a top 10. The league is going to be 19 teams soon.

NBA has 16 of 30 teams play in playoffs with that going to 20 of 30 with the play-in.

So it’s not as bad as that. Cool your jets

11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Purely and simply, he is playing the Angus Brayshaw team role.

Now has the ability to plug holes whenever he is needed.

We have seen him as a tagger, wingman, half forward and now doing a great job down half back.

We havent had this type of player since Gus retired.

I also think Langdon is doing his lion share of that.

God Guerra is a terrible communicator from a PR sense. He speaks for people and their inclinations - muses even. He speaks in terms of potential commercial opportunities in the midst of a personal health issue. His feet would be in wet sand and he would pull them out with his hands

On Kolts kick to sparrow:

So while this looks like great vision. This is what you get with predictability and execution. Sparrow KNEW to be 20m off the boundary in the flank protecting the space that Kolt KNEW he would have help from his teammates. It was then his ability to make that kick and Sparrow to take that mark but it’s amazing what instruction committed to by a group can do in team sports.

33 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

I recon we should play Opera in the forward pocket next to Checkers. That will freakout Harris Andrews on Prelim final day.

So no Irish jig? Just get the opera pumping?

11 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

B: Howes, Lever, Bowey

HB: Tholstrup, Turner, Langdon

C: Langford, Steele, Windsor

HF: Fritsch, van Rooyen, L.Pickett

F: Jefferson, Mihocek, Chandler

FOLL: Gawn, Butters, K.Pickett

IC: Lindsay, Culley, Sparrow, Sharp, Heath

EMERG: Salem, Melksham, Viney

THAT'S A PREMIERSHIP WINNING TEAM!

Butters currently plays for another team….

9 hours ago, Adam The God said:

I seriously think we should keep the Irish music at all home games after every goal. The scarf waving in the MCC was Essendon-like 1990s early 2000s. An amazing spectacle.

I think it'd really lift our players seeing the scarves waving in the stands and it'd put off opposition teams, certainly interstate teams where we have the outnumber.

As for the game itself, Koz was brilliant early, loved Langford's game, Chandler's best and Kolt's. All three probably played their best games. Howes and Turner down back are such steady heads on young shoulders.

Trelly did some special things, didn't he? That cut back to JVR in the last was utterly outrageous. And I loved it!

A great game from JVR. Sharp, Langdon, Checkers and Fritta all played their roles really well. And we got contributions from Jeffo, Laurie and Moose.

Extremely happy with the win. And again, to those who said losing to Essendon would undo all our good work for the first four weeks, naaaaah.

If we did the Irish music after every goal we would ruin the whole thing. It worked because it is joyful and different and we won. And kicked 16 goals. Do it every week and it will not be seen as that.

Sometimes things that work should be left to work how it’s worked.

Another tshirt @DubDee

28 minutes ago, binman said:

Playing so well as a wing because that's his role for the foreseeable future. And by foreseeable future i mean at least this season and next.

As i've pointed before King is using him in the exact same role he used Dempsey in at the Cats - a winger who is key to transition, kicks goals, and on offence pushes deep forward, often all the way to the goal square (where like Dempsey, Langford is scoring goals from) creating a match up problem inside 50.

Teams can only carry one inside mid AFL these days - clubs use one max at centre square clearances and atm that's clearly Steel and Sparrow waxing, with Viney in the mix when back in the side.

There's simply no spot for Langford as an inside mid atm, and as i say not the foreseeable future. Which is not say he won't get involved in stoppages around the ground - he is already - just that he won't be starting centre bounce mid

Mids now need breakaway acceleration and speed, which is why Koz has become one of the very best mids in the AFL and why Windsor is one of our starting mids and is running at aprox 80% CBAs. Langford has an ok cruising speed, but acceleration will never be his go - and it's not like he has elite hands and kicking skills that very best mids have.

Clearly the tall winger that supports transition and pushes deep forward role is a critical part of King's game plan and as such he needs player who can execute it to high level - which is precisely what Langford is doing (with his game on the weekend being the exemplar).

Here's my tip - at some point in the next few weeks it's going to dawn on the media how effective Langford is in the wing role. Robbing Peter to pay Paul to move him from that spot and into the middle where we have a surfeit of players who can play an inside mid role.

It’s a testament to the kid, the FD, King, the club psych probably… to get this bloke to play a game like that ‘out of position’. He’s a point of difference out there on the wing (so is Culley and Fritsch when they go there) and it is why the best teams are so ‘deep’ - it is not the ability to bring kids up from Casey, it’s the ability to have ball winners across the ground so when you lose someone - you can more easily adjust your team and get a ball winner in the middle or have someone suddenly go to the backline and excel (Langdon).

It’s really promising for Langfords and Langdons careers and our short to medium term chances to win a critical sum of games.

Langford does need to fix up his kicking.

I don’t know why people are so butthurt. He was constantly talking about the kid because he was playing so well off the wing for an inside mid.

But he needs to work on his craft lest he turn into a mid that can’t be damaging with their disposal - and doesn’t that sound familiar??

59 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

My brother said Mihocek was cooked when he turned it over against St.Kilda then he went on to kick 3 goals. Steele was always likely to be a good player he's not burdened with having to do everything like he had to at St.Kilda. We've found our replacement for Oliver but we haven't found our replacement for Petracca if we had Petracca we'd be a sneaky chance for the flag.

No 23 you can come up with is a ‘Petracca-away’ from a flag…

52 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

That's not true both got injured at the same time. King rates Jefferson I haven't heard him rate Kentfield.

Neale Daniher once said Chris Lamb would be a great player for the MFC. He was delisted months later.

Coaches say what needs to be said.

Jefferson has a chance to do something but comparing the two is pointless for such fledgling careers.

My Collingwood family (extended) told me Mihocek was cooked. Laughed at me when I said we’d be happy to have him.

My StKilda supporting mate told me Steele was ‘done’ and he was happy we are paying his pension in that 3rd year. I thought he would be good to take the pressure off of the kids without Viney there.

When we just throw away those that are ‘cooked’ because ‘the kids’ would be better for the run. You don’t know that. You’re hoping. The same thread that doesn’t want to play a 33 year old pro also has seen calls for a possible debutante to play the opposite end to which he has been training.

Some of you need to just go down to your local club and smell the grass. Little idea what develops players and what makes good teams and clubs.

1 hour ago, jumbo returns said:

I'm hearing you but I'm finding the turnover of the list exciting and refreshing

It's not about 2026...it's getting ready to win another premiership in 2028/9

T Mac is blocking development

He's a great guy, but he's done

Yes, but if he keeps a kid from having to be exposed then he is worthwhile.

The development of the kids is only aided by Mihocek and Steele but I know there were nuffies on here saying we shouldn’t bother for 31/32 year olds and play the kids.

TMac playing so far this year may have meant Howes could play a more suited role. Perhaps it has already paid dividends?

3 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

I like Kentfield but Jefferson is in front of him. Kentfield only got the ball 4 times in the VFL. Doesn't get enough of it unfortunately.

And Kentfield was ahead of Jefferson in the pre season…

The fact is they are both at the starting line, and I am looking at both of them from the stands waiting for them to get on the blocks.

TMac is slow and in his last year, but we are trying to win games and if he helps us win…

We have enough kids in the team tbh

39 minutes ago, The end is nigh said:

I thought Jeffers had a few good leads to space where another Melbourne player marked instead uncontested. Got seperation and could have had more shots had the kicks carried to him.

Also, just a sneaky one from Casey, mentha had a lot of drive from half back. Not a superb user but his pace looked a real weapon. Maybe not immediate but a chance to push for a spot.

If Jefferson is leading to where a teammate is on his own - that is not a good thing.

In fact it is what JVR is learning - and Mihocek knows innately as the best forward at the club.

The great goal Chandler from the flank was possible because he slipped out and JVR stopped his lead to that flank to get Harris Andrews to hesitate on where the footy would go. Culley (who seemed to have eyes in the back of his head) U-turned and then spotted him up.

Jefferson presented well on occasion and if he can push Fritsch up the ground for periods then that means he is playing his role. Happy to give him a month block of games but I haven’t seen anything special yet in terms of his movement and forward craft.

Merge this.

He’s great but we have one of these

I’m with Dazzle here - this is giving me 98/00 vibes.

Green and Bruce are rookies able to play out a year?? (Latrelle)

Daniel Ward is a top 6 HBF/wing in the league?? Er, ok. (Langdon)

Matty Collins is Peter Dean?! Huh. (Howes)

Smattering of proud vets.

Fun, run and gun football??

Oh boy