Clintosaurus

25 point win. Too many 2013 vibes in here.

Blues fans sooking about the umps is priceless. Without their help this year they would struggle to make the 8.

Their level of entitlement this year is unbelievable

1/1

NORF!!!

Lobb is worth a third rounder. Off to the Dogs anyway.

HQ would like North, Carlton, Sydney, Port and Gold Coast to win. 6 teams on 48, 1 on 44 and 8th spot still open with 5 teams on 36 points.

That is something that will never happen. Umps like Collingwood as they do Carlton and the Dogs.

[censored] are probably destined to win the flag. Every week they fluke their way to close wins.

[censored] Collingwood

Pies flukiest team ever

Saints should win. As someone has said, Crows have a real chance of knocking off the Pies.

Yet if Luke was at Collingwood they would be saying 3 first rounders or no deal.

The only disruption is to supporters crying about losing a player - the club is fine and would have plans in place for any scenario.

@picket fenceyou needed this

This is almost the zenith of MFCSS.

Listened to the rest on the way home. Geez Andy got even more fired up. Cussing and shouting. I would recommend watching 100-7 to calm down a little.

Geez Andy's MFCSS got a bit fired up!!! Lucky @binman wasn't in the same room or he may have copped one.

For some, it is the end of the world if we lose any game. Others it gives strength to - you never see them when we win.

I'm not saying intentionally influencing ladder positions, but the opportunity is there for some teams (Carlton and Collingwood as I have mentioned) to benefit from the good run provided by the umps. It could be as simple as the umpires' coaches mentioning to umpires that certain players are being regularly held in marking contests and to be aware of it. McKay and Curnow the obvious ones. Clarry and Josh Kelly get held at every stoppage but rarely get frees for it. Guess the umpires coaches don't talk about it.

This. Umpiring does impact ladder positions. Carlton and Collingwood getting help on this front. Sometimes teams aren't good enough to take advantage of the help though. But it's there. Dogs have had it for years. Things like the rule of the week have influence too.

Not rigged, but at least an element of manipulation

He'll play

HQ want everything decided in Round 23.

Umps trying to get the Lions home