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Not a day for Gawn to be taking it out of the ruck

If Bowey is 80% of what Caleb Daniel is, get him in. He is in everything

I think he's played his role well this year, particularly as a very young fella. Just not sure his output warrants a guaranteed place after the last 4-5 weeks

I think he well and truly has

Agree. If Lever, May and Petty are not controlling the air, we are pretty stuck for offense. They allow Salem, Rivers, Hibbo and Hunt to get moving. Also, this is exactly why Ben Brown makes us a better side, for those on the fence. Things opposition teams do to us can also be flipped and implemented.

This his to be the reason, Bevo is out of his mind if he thinks that could work on a wet MCG

Hibberd is in our side each week and Maynard is better than the best version of Hibbo. It would be a pretty serious upgrade

Luke Parker is one of my favourite players, would love him in Blue and Red

I would argue yes. The pressure of being top of the ladder and the expectation that comes with it, has slowly caught up with us

I hear you, but the whole team is well down. Don't care that we beat Port, our last 6 weeks have been ordinary at best. Brown needs a 4-5 week stretch of games, if he isn't producing, we can worry then. I believe he is incredibly valuable for exactly the reasons you listed above. He draws a good defender away from T-Mac or Fritta, he makes teams nervous with his height and as the weather improves towards finals, the marks will come. A firing big forward would be the icing on the cake for us, so we need to give him a chance to be that. Heading into finals, he is more critical to our structure than ANB, Kossie, Melksham or Fritsch will ever be. You can't just make a bloke taller

They are obviously doing a lot right if he feels he needs them there. The penny might have dropped

We are an infinitely better side with Brown in, there is no way he goes out. Of the players on notice, I think he'd be well behind a few others.

There has been very little recent talk of our game being a 'front-half game' either. We definitely have a soccer style game plan and a very physically taxing one to employ for a whole year, to the level required.

The King article gives the perfect example of what a few have been banging on about for weeks. We are playing a negative brand of footy, sitting back of centre and letting the opposition come at us. It's designed to allow Lever and May to control the ball and tempo of the game, however when we are a little off or teams really come at us, it falls apart. It's utilizing a strength but an incredibly risky strategy. I'm very confident that our mids (Gawn, Trac and Oliver) pay absolutely no attention to what the opposition are doing or are instructed that way, because we were zigging when Max was zagging at an extremely high percentage of the centre bounces on the weekend. Hawthorn gave it everything and exposed us, they just were not good enough across the board to actually win the game. Collingwood and Adelaide did the same, but got over the line. I don't care if our record is good against the top teams and we 'get up' for those games, it's only a matter of time before we don't and it would be heartbreaking if that were week 1 or week 1 and 2 of finals.

This brings me back to my point about Jordon and Sparrow being involved earlier in the year. The midfield worked better with different guys rolling through, they had to collectively think about it a little more. At this point I am not sure that Gawn, Trac and Oliver know which play to employ or when. Trac and Clayton are definitely tight and it is probably part of what makes them so good, however they need to be given a proper kick up the [censored] regarding the selfless mantra the club supposedly values. The media always has them as in the upper echelon, but never without a caveat . Trac could take over Dusty's mantle if he could do it each week, Oliver could be the best player in the comp if he runs and kicks more. They have to want to be the best and to do that, it needs to be unconditional that the effort is there every contest, every week.

It's interesting to watch, our midfield trio of Gawn, Trac and Oliver seem to be the ones that we rely on to drag us over the line, but if they actively try and win us the game themselves it is often to our detriment. You can very rarely win modern football games without a positive contribution from at least 1/2 your side. We either have 18 players involved or 3-4 trying to go solo. Easiest way to get players going is to bring them into the game, share the footy around and stop getting ahead of yourselves.

So the question then arises, when all the talk pre-season was about the group buy in and being selfless, how can the last 6 weeks have happened? Have we used all our petrol tickets too early in the year? Were we too reliant on the young guys (Riv, Jacko, Kossie) to provide spark? Are they all a bit fatigued and trying to feather their own nests? Has the Weideman/Brown drama caused some instability, likewise Viney being rushed back in? In my opinion, Jordon being shifted out of the permanent mid role has reduced our efficiency. He is very balanced and smart around the ball, his tackles stick and he genuinely plays a team-first style. He also covers the ground well. Same could be said for Sparrow, he didn't win the ball as much as Viney and was prone to the odd brain fade, but he was definitely working to the team first mantra. We had a more dynamic mix early in the year.

Appreciate the ground he covers and that pressure acts are highly regarded, but I’d much rather a Zac Bailey type HFF who can be damaging from 15 disposals. I said last week that I think Bedford should be given a chance in ANB’s spot. He might not win much of the footy, but he’d create more opportunity than ANB with skill or evasiveness and he’s just as fit.

I’d be giving Jacko a few weeks off to freshen up. He could win us a final off his own back if he’s on song, so give him a breather and reset for the last 4 weeks. Would have a look at the mix in the middle too, I’m not sure if I imagine it, but Viney changes the dynamic in such a negative way when he is in the side. He seems to block any avenues Trac and a Oliver have out of a stoppage and when he gets the ball himself, it’s diabolical. He is so one-dimensional that you can see the body language change very quickly, not in a positive way. He upsets the balance immensely. I think we are being exposed for a lack of depth still, Kossie, Riv and Jacko should not all be playing every week just yet. there’s just no one to replace them with

Pretty happy I switched off at half time, I’d seen enough Whatever spark they brought to last week’s game was well and truly left behind. Just a really ugly performance

Great episode guys. I think a lot of people dislike Cornes for the sake of it or perhaps because he was so good as a negating player. He's not your typical commentator who is there to feather his own nest, he's working on becoming better and he's very astute with the modern game. I'd recommend everyone have a listen

I have no skin in this game either, but ANB is the obvious one

He deserves more opportunity and I am sure it will come over the coming years. I think he could be the missing piece of the puzzle for our midfield if he can string a run of form together

How much more development does Joel Smith need? If he’s in our side, we are done. Not really because of Joel himself, but he has multiple players in front of him in every role his fanboys think he could play

Seems like the training load thing might have had some truth to it. Much sharper tonight and against a contender, it’s bloody good to see.