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I think JJ was a lot better than people remember, he does a lot of grunt work and seems to get on the end of it quite a lot. I think we are two good mids short, don’t think we have enough firepower there at present, which would be much worse if either of Trac or Clarry go down

You could also argue he has more opportunity at Melbourne than he would get elsewhere. No club is recruiting him to be an elite/frontline mid, they are recruiting him as a stopper or a role player - so the grass may look greener, but the situation will be the same no matter where he goes. This also relies on another club even wanting him

Without going too hard, I would say one of Harmes' greatest issues is that he is a bit wrapped up in himself. He's not a match winner, so he's a role player. If he doesn't want to play a role, he has no place

The opportunity for a couple of changes might not be such a bad thing at this time of the year - although I would have preferred it in the last 3-4 weeks We know Goody is stubborn and the chances of the exact squad he wants making it through finals is slim, this might give us a fresh look and open up some other options

How on earth did the coaches votes get split between Clarry and Trac?

I am potentially opening myself up for a bath here, but I don't think Jacko necessarily had that much better game than past weeks. He obviously kicked 4 goals which is great, however he seemed to get lucky being in the right spot a couple of times. He only had 6 kicks - shows what a difference accurate kicking makes! On form, he definitely was right in the gun to be dropped. I hope he gains a lot of confidence from it and he can keep hitting the scoreboard deep into finals

I sure hope so. You want the ball in his hands as you know the next possession will count

Was nice to remember what it was like to put the foot on the accelerator and keep going, hopefully the takeaway from the playing group is that the effort was what allowed the outcome. My main points of interest from the game; - Ben Brown got some reward for effort. He does a lot of hard yards and is starting to grow and get comfortable within the group. - Oliver's first half was ridiculous, he looked like a 16 year old playing 12 year olds. He was on such a different level - Petty was brilliant, unfortunately for Tommo, I think he's a better defender and is doing everything else just as well. - I saw a couple of shepherds from our guys - We still have plenty of room to improve based on that outing, Gold Coast were as bad as I have ever seen from an AFL side (barring us in years gone by) - If anyone was concerned about Bowey being capable, you can rest easy now. He made good decisions, executed well and he looked as assured as I have ever seen from a first gamer. Viney and Harmes could learn a lot from the way he played. Do the simple things well and don't bite off more than you can chew.

We’ve got a lot of NQR inside mids, not sure that helps us when they don’t have any currency.

Out - Harmes In - JJ

Fair roving effort from BBB

Good quarter, still think we are lairising too much with ball in hand. Trac needs to take the first option and get others involved Nice to play on a dry/fast deck for once

I have no skin in this game, but I would not be surprised in the least if Mitchell held the club over a barrel on this. He's always been supremely sure of himself

Hardly a surprise. Good lesson for everyone that the media is just used as a tool by clubs/coaches and players. Hawthorn tried to spin the happy family line but it was plain to see that was never going to happen.

I played in a successful local junior side that won 3 flags in 4 years (U15-U18) We were definitely doing it back then, even in junior footy and that was 20 years ago. The general sports fan does not realise that professional sports are based on very small margins and teams are searching for 1% difference to get them over the line. They are not just 'fit' and that is enough

I'd really like Weid to get to a club that gives him regular games. In my opinion, continuity will be his best chance at becoming a solid AFL player. From a MFC perspective, lose him and we are throwing all our eggs in one basket with T-Mac/B.Brown & M.Brown all in the latter stages of their careers.

I said this in the match day thread, but it’s worth repeating. If he’s even 80% of what Daniels is, we need him in

Hopefully the little fella can bring some spark and enthusiasm into the side too. There is a spot for the taking, leading into a finals campaign, if he wants it

Wonder what generation you are from ?‍♀️

I suspect Wingard is very gettable, but I would not want him. Everything I’ve read suggests he isn’t that interested in being a footballer, just does it to pay the bills. He plays that way too. Sidebottom is a good one. He could easily play wing, HBF or HFF for us. Not sure we can get him but would dangle a year longer contract to entice him. We are very light on in the middle and I think someone in the Crouch/Constable model could be useful. You can’t deny their ability to get their hands on the footy and they do it every week, unlike our guys (beyond Clayton and I believe James Jordon will evolve further to do similar)

We are very light on for quality depth in my opinion.

The last few weeks have shown if it isn't Salem, it's no one. Pretty simple task for the opposition to lean on him and stop our game in it's tracks.

This would be at the heart of a lot of supporter frustration.

I agree, if he is to remain in the side it should be 80-20 forward split. At least he could create some carnage in forward contests - which none of our KPF are known for. I can't help feeling there is a bit of politics involved in this. It's a big and long investment for a pressure forward, the club would look a little silly if that were the case.

Could well be. Although I think the way we are setting up and defending is making it very hard for a team to blow us out of the water, our games aren't high scoring affairs and that is by design. We got within 4 points, but we were comfortably beaten all night. I understand that we have eliminated the blowouts, however we've lost 3 of the past 6 games and escaped with a draw in another, the margin doesn't change the result