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Nothing wrong with Viney setting standards and demanding others do the same. That’s leadership in my mind. The problem is his skill deficiencies and other flaws in game. He’s got to back up the demands on others with consistent performances otherwise team mates won’t listen. Why should they when his performances fall short? His value can’t be based on effort alone. I like Viney. If he’s on our list next year I won’t be upset. But his contract must be proportionate with his capabilities. Fundamentally I don’t think his performances are good enough based on the expectations I have of him as a player.

or Rivers

Don;'t forget Melbourne. We need prayers more than anyone.

hopefully doggies regret not putting their foot on the hawks throat in the 2nd half.

This is turning ugly. doggies will get a major % boost by the looks of it.

No favors from the Hawks today. Another reason to dislike them more than i already do

Jeez. I'm glad we're not playing Adelaide in the last round. they're red hot at the moment.

Top work Elegt

Pity. It would have been a great omen!

A lot of people doing it tough and I note the comments here about small businesses in particular. I know plenty who've been stuck inside and its starting to really grate. Mental health is a big issue that doesn’t get mentioned often enough. Hopefully by GF weekend restrictions will be relaxed a little so families can visit each other again, friends can have 1 or 2 visitors over. I’m all for it for those reasons.

Do you have any relatives with a birthday on 24 October by any chance?

he's been a super player. Tough little bugger. Great hands. He's not been the same since that knee injury last year. Pains me to say but i don't think he'll get back to his best.

I had my doubts and especially when he presented for pre-season out of shape. But to his credit he's come good. He should be AA. I wouldn't swap for any other defender in the game. Harris Andrews maybe but thats it.

The problem is Biff when we do try that we cough it up. Skills let us down. I was heartened to see Kozzie start a chain of handballs from half back which led to Spargo's first qtr goal. More of that please.

It's way too predictable at this stage. I'd add Weids or Brown to your suggestions as well?

Great talent. Kicked 2 crucial goals and showed more composure doing so than most of our senior players!

It’s been said elsewhere but GWS and ST Kilda playing before us next week is huge. GWS will have to put it all on the line and if they play like they did last night then I think they win. But it’ll be tight. I’ve just watched the highlights from the Port and Essendon game. The bombers are an absolute rabble. They’ve checked out. If we bring the same attitude and intensity as last night then we can win by 6 goals I reckon. I imbibed a little too much wine last night so the head is in no shape to work through the permutations but a GWS win together with us making up enough percentage gets us into the 8 no matter what the bulldogs do. Is that right?

More likely Hibberd, Lockhart (if he's ever allowed out of the doghouse) will take Jetta's spot.

Far exceeded my expectations. I wanted Hill! Disciplined, always providing the outlet, huge tank. We finally have a proper wingman so kudos to the recruitment team.

And Rivers was pick 32. Another like him would be a win imv.

Langdon excellent but my vote goes to Burgess

I’m not about knee jerk reactions. Absolutely the pros and cons need to be weighed up and properly considered. It’s more the heart and soul arguments I take issue with. You’re correct about Williams. Thanks for putting be right there.

Thank for the correction WWSW. Shannon Byrnes. Jeez. A very underwhelming 2 years at the club. I think Williams is a safer bet though.

I agree Deever. Weids is at best a no.2. He doesn’t have the presence to lead the line. We need to bring in a key forward. It’s our no.1 need. If Hogan is gettable I’d bring him back. Agree options are limited. I’d worry if we leave Jackson in the forward line with an under-performing Weids alone. He needs to be taking the 3rd best defender. Allow him time to develop. Otherwise he’ll be added to the list of players whose development has been mismanaged by the club.

There’s a thread on this forum about ruthlessness. I think it’s time this club displayed some. When weighting up a trade you have to consider what you get in return. It’s been mentioned here we’d get a first round compensation pick. That’s overs for Jack in my mind. I agree that he leads by example and is consistent of effort. And that’s not nothing. But when he had the captaincy last year he was poor and didn’t handle it well. It affected his game (although no doubt injury played a part as well). His skills are limited and let him down too often. We have a tendency to over rate our players. There haven’t been too many players who have left this club recently and been a success elsewhere and I reckon Jack will be no different. If we get a first round pick which we use to secure Zac Williams we will have improved our list imo.