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I might need to watch the replay again, but from memory Chandler certainly did not turn Foley and he went face first into the turf with both arms firmly pinned. The Hawkins one is pretty different to that IMO.

Main difference for mine is how much the arms are pinned and that Joyce's shoulder hits the ground first (given Hawkins turns him a bit).

Completely different mate. Frawley left a bin fire of a club as a free agent at age 26. We were in desperate need of draft currency to facilitate a rebuild. Jackson is a 20 year old in a team firmly in a premiership window and absolutely not in desperate need of high draft picks at the moment. I mean, I'm not saying it's a complete disaster if we lose Jackson, but I firmly believe we're far better placed for success if we manage to keep him around, particularly given Gawn, May, TMac and Brown would only have a couple of years left.

We're in a completely different situation now. There is no comparison.

Would prefer to not trade Jackson out on a gamble.

I get where you're coming from, and I won't bother writing a whole long thing, but my short version is: - Draft picks are no guarantee of a gun player. - Our window is now. Right now. A bunch of our key players only have a couple of years left. I'd be worried about the period between when they finish and when these draft pick players come through. There's 'possibilities' in many directions with draft picks.

No guarantee it's a top 10 pick next year though.

Where would West Coast get a second top 10 pick from? How would Freo get two top 10 picks? Brayshaw is a free agent, absolute best case scenario is we maybe get pick 19 for him.

Doesn't matter. The rule doesn't say 'sling tackle' it says 'dangerous tackle'. Doesn't matter. The basis of the rule is around potential to cause injury. There 100% is. Pinning the arm(s) is clearly covered in the dangerous tackle rule.

Is (premiership player and Grand Final momentum turner) Luke Jackson the right guy? #ISayItWithAHeavyWallet

People get too caught up in the public labeling it a 'sling tackle' rule. That's not the only thing the rules cover. It's more of a dangerous tackle rule, and one of the things it covers is the pinning of arms. They tweaked the rule in 2020 to make it more broad in classification (ie - changed to 'dangerous tackle' from previous 'spear tackle' or 'sling tackle'), but the main focus remained to the head. Chandler will get 1 week minimum. The AFL's rules say: "The Player being tackled is in a vulnerable position (i.e. arm(s) pinned) with little opportunity to protect himself,"

6 marks and 1 tackle mate. https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/4228#player-stats

1 tackle. 12 disposals - 3 clangers, 5 turnovers. Thought he was poor today. Yeah probably fair to say more good than bad, his defending has improved a lot this year for sure. His disposal has just stood out a lot more without Salem around maybe.

Not with you on this call at all. Been up and down this year and thought today was one of his worst.

Don't disagree on that, but if those people haven't readjusted their expectations by now then that's their problem. Had a good game today, hope he takes some confidence from it.

Sounds like Weid will be immediately delisted then. Thanks for the insight.

How many games has Mitch played at AFL level this year again?

Ok. Also though, he had 6 goals, 19 disposals, 6 marks and 3 clearances today. Good on him. Just don't understand why the focus always has to be negative with Weid.

Nowhere did I say he's a gun. The point is there's a ton of Demonlanders who will put him down no matter the output. Sure, Brown and TMac (albeit only just most of the time) are ahead of him, but who's the third? You're surely not suggesting JVR (who is yet to debut) are you?

Doesn't matter what Weid does, some Demolanders will smack him for something that they perceive he didn't do. Weid has 10 marks and 20 hitouts, Demoland: 'Oh but he just doesn't hit the scoreboard!' Weid has 6 goals, Demonland: 'Oh but he just doesn't do enough other stuff!' Far out.

The way I've understood it is that 'resilience piece' is constant. So, not just preseason and training, otherwise what's the point? If we look at last year in particular, I remember a fair few players playing through niggles (Gawn stands out as one example I specifically remember, May in the GF too). Selwyn seems to have kept that philosophy going and we have Gawn playing this week as a pretty firm example of that IMO. You would 100% back us to win this week even without the skip, but he's been picked despite obvious knee soreness. As far as managing players goes, I don't believe Burgo (and now Selwyn) subscribe to the theory of resting as management, it seems to be more about how much harder you train (and when - 'tapering' as such).

Weid kicks 6 and still gets pummeled on Demonland. Of course.

Just my opinion based on general observations, so maybe not a 'fact-check' as such... but.. Seems to me Burgo believes in tapering and in scheduling training loads around when peak fitness is most needed, but 'resting' players is definitely another story if you judge it by our injury management under Burgo compared to Misson. Way more conservative under Misson and from the outside it seem like niggles or soreness that would have seen you left out under Misson were expected to be played through under Burgess. The pod was definitely a big insight: "My biggest thing was to try and implement some physical resilience in the playing group," Burgess said. "There's two ways to go about injury prevention, I think. "If someone has niggles you give them a rest so they complete as many sessions as possible, cut the sessions short if someone's a bit sore, or you can build them up and push them through those periods where they're a little sore, a little bit tender and a little bit fatigued … to provide them with that robustness to get through." Burgess said he used to subscribe to the former theory before evolving to the latter in recent years. Fitness guru reveals secret to Dees' incredible injury-free run And when you go through comments from Port previously and now Adelaide, the word 'resilience' comes up amazingly often. Recent comment from Cornes about what Adelaide might expect: “The usual little excuse of a tight hamstring or a twinge in the calf or something sore is probably not going to cut it at Adelaide." Why the Crows are in for a “big wake-up call” this off-season

Doesn't look like Bucks will be anywhere next year (although never say never of course).

Happened November last year, court appearance scheduled for this Monday but apparently likely to be moved back a month. *According to Herald Sun report anyways.