Deesprate

I agree with that. One of the very few positives

Thank Monde great post. At least now expectation is gone provides a massive opportunity to trial thing, experiment and draft to meet needs.

Sorry but totally don’t agreee with this. Give his all and play an inside mid role. Has limit but liability is way over the top!

Absolutely key stat. The back line was not to bad our forward line pathetic

Was at the game and just to punish myself watched the replay. To me the worst part of the performance was how many times we kicked blindly particularly to the middle of the ground giving the Tigers direct access to score. Also contrast our forward pressure to Richmond. How many times did Richmond set up and waltz out of the back line. For those who propose Garrlet as some out of answer your kidding yourself. There is no place in the game for someone who can’t apply forward pressure he need to go and now.

I flew down from the Goldy for this game. I think there was effort but the cattle in that team is so poor. The fact are we are looking at an extended period at the bottom. Please Mr President (Mr Invisible) move heaven and earth to get a Roos type to help Goodwin. This is more than the coach there need to be a complete overhaul. My highlight was sharing a lift with Neita and Hoppy after the game. Hoppy been in a good paddock!

Not expecting to win but expect effort and body contact. At least if we lose show some fight. Also Goodwin spring some surprises maintaining the status quo guarantees a loss. Travelled down from the Goldy to watch don’t want to hit the bar to early!

Sub standard fitness, poor attitude and lack of trust are symptom of poor leadership and culture. Your point about leadership is spot on. As Goodwin said there are no excuses but boy we seem to be hearing a lot of them.

Spot on Jackson and Roos dragged this club to a year of respect. Where we are now is a footy tragedy particularly if the rumor of dissent with McCartney are correct. Healthy organisation sort issues internally. Even if McCartney is the Atilla of coaching his white anting in the media reflect poorly on those involved. If this is the organizational culture where stuffed. There need to be mechanism where differences can be discussed and sorted if they don’t exist that poor if they do exist and players find it easier to white ant then culture will be destroyed. Mr President or should I say Mr Invisible better get on top of this cancer.

Culture is everything. The way Melbourne is playing completely indicative of poor culture. If these stories are true reflect very poorly on team leaders. As for McCartney probably call it as he see it (good on him) and the precious players who revolted against the camp once again throw their toy out. These performances and stories really make it hard to support this club. You can wear losing but these players have no connection with the pain of the supporter group.

That probably correct but at least if you try some new thing you may uncover some nuggets. Definitely would not drop Jones he won us the game against Swans. Really like TMac to defence.

All of the above plus some.

Excellent post blaming the coach is way to easy. Yes the players are to blame but getting ahead of themselves reflect an overall club culture than accept mediocrity. Good club would not pat themselves on the back for being flogged in a prelim.

Just looking for one positive each of the team we have lost to are in the eight. Up until the bye there only two games currently you would rate us a chance Suns & Hawks. Tigers, Eagles; Giants; Crows; Pies look tough. If we beat Suns & Hawks we turn 3 win 9 losses. Scary. Imagine the weekly presser about transitioning and connecting better. At what stage is it acknowledged that every level of the club need to be reviewed. Maybe an Armageddon year is better than mediocrity. It will force hard truth to be confronted.

On current ladder position we are the second worst team in the comp. that $26 for the spoon is looking enticing. Based on current form Swans and Kangas will battle us for number one draft pick. Evidently when we connect and transition better we will no longer be easy beats. Yeah and pigs will fly.

Absolutely agree opposition coaches must lick their lips we never Spring a surprise. There plan A and then Plan A. Coaching indictment you can’t stop run of goals. Coaching 101

Love point seven Ivan Drago. Putting aside the technical analysis (let face it where just no good) it would at least make me feel better if the coach stopped serving up the same platitudes week in week out. Whilst where losing how about trying some new things like TMac to defence, one on one; stacked backline; brawl anything we are so meek and accepting of defeat.

It not the losing, it not the players, it not the coach it the absolute inevitability of following a basket case of a club. Through the rebuild I was patient as I believed in Roos and Jackson. We would lose but you felt step were being made in the right direction. Not now I have no confidence in any leadership level of this club from the chair (Mr Invisible) down. Losing is one thing but hope has been destroyed. We are looking at another re build there is absolutely nothing redeeming about where we are at. Don’t believe the crap about bring on Richmond they are seriously channeling Brad Green. We are heading for bottom four and what so depressing is we will butcher any high end draft pick but be sold a load of crap that we are on the right track. I honestly believe we are destined for years at the bottom it just the natural order of thing.

It called coaching. Saints were well drilled where a shambles

Toughen up the guys responsible for pathetic set up in defence. He deserves balance. These guys live the life of Riley if they don’t cut it stuff the sensitivities.

Good free kick you can’t just fall on the ground. Sicily is the biggest whinger going round.

Dean Kent look unfit. Puffing like a locomotive

You want to see a bad umpiring watch the mark not paid to Blues with one minute to go. Seriously some of the umpiring very poor. Terrible game but what odds would you have got that Suns would be equal ladder leader. Mind you incredibly soft draw but a win a win

Preuss great play

Finally get a free and freaking disadvantage