Everything posted by Swooper1987
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Will Max Gawn ever be recognised as the best player in the league?
https://shows.acast.com/7afl/episodes/the-al-lingy-show-round-7 Go to the 3 minute mark. Big praise for MG!
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MFC Rebranding for Indigenous Round
Mandy Nicholson who did the 2016-17 design's is Ky-ya's mum. They are fantastic artists, and a great family. Had both Ky-ya and her sister Dharna in my school. Jumper looks great.
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NON-MFC: Round 07, 2022
They are a very good team and were probably the biggest threat to us last season. They are better again this year although I still think they concede too many big scores. I like Freo defensively. They need Fyfe up forward and kicking straight.
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VOTES : Rd 07 vs Hawthorn
It might, but the AFLCA votes have the same top 5 Demons as Demonland (Petracca, Oliver, Gawn, May, Langdon). That might change a little after this round but I think it'll be similar. Current AFLCA votes for Melbourne players (to round 6): 31 Oliver 28 Petracca 20 May 18 Gawn 12 Langdon 9 Brayshaw 6 Brown 6 Jackson 5 Viney 4 Weidemann 4 Jordon 4 Harmes 2 Spargo 1 Sparrow
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Will Max Gawn ever be recognised as the best player in the league?
Craig Jennings rated him the best in the game 2 years ago. https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/08/06/does-max-gawn-have-as-much-impact-as-some-of-the-games-greats/
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Will Max Gawn ever be recognised as the best player in the league?
In the pre season poll the media do with the the coaching panels Max got 4 votes as the best player in the game. That was more than Oliver (0) and Petracca (1) from memory. I think the opposition understand how good Max is. he's definitely not underrated by them.
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VOTES : Rd 07 vs Hawthorn
Concur. Was a Gawn epic
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COACHES VOTES: Round 6, 2022
Correct. Goody fairly bristled when a journo suggested Petracca had been below his best. I think it was obvious to everyone else at the ground that Petracca was below his best but there you go. I guess even below his best he still had some influence, although like most here I thought Gawn's influence over the whole game was far greater.
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Effort Players
Kane Cornes has named his seven best effort players in the competition right now. https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/04/24/greatest-effort-player-the-game-has-ever-seen-cornes-top-seven-maximum/ This is the list and a great acknowledgement for Gawn who through sheer effort has made himself a champion. Kane Cornes’ top seven effort players in the competition below 7. Max Gawn (Melbourne) “Watched him last night diving over boots, getting back in the hole, taking contested marks, he’s turned himself obviously into a star player, but the inspiration he provides and the effort for his team…” 6. Jacob Weitering (Carlton) “I wanted to give the key position players some love. Jacob Weitering is a great trier.” “One-on-one, never gets beaten. “He’s running back, he’s out of position, gets a hand in, gets a glove in and brings the ball to ground.” 5. Brayden Maynard (Collingwood) “Just a good trier.” 4. Toby Greene (GWS Giants) “Just watch him. Watch the effort that he provides. Tagged every week, players hanging off him … he falls to the ground, gets back up.” 3. Ben Keays (Adelaide) “He just gives incredible effort each and every week.” 2. Touk Miller (Gold Coast) 1. Joel Selwood (Geelong)
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VOTES: Rd 06 vs Richmond
coaches went: Oliver 10 (5/5) Langdon 7 (4/3) Vlastuin 6 (4/2) May 3 (3/-) Petracca 2 (2/-) Brayshaw 1 (1/-) Sparrow 1 (1/-) Goodwin definitely voted for Petracca if you listen to his post game presser. Which means he thought Vlastuin was second best and therefore Hardwick gave May 3. So well done to the very few Demonlanders who had Tracc in the votes!!
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22-0 or 21-1
I've always looked at 12 wins as the first marker. That pretty much guarantees finals. We are halfway there. Win 4 more than that and you are very unlucky to miss top 4. So I'd be happy with 16-6 and even happier with 17 or 18 wins which should get you to top 2.
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VOTES: Rd 06 vs Richmond
or pay attention to the coaches votes. Everyone has an opinion. This is a forum to express it.
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VOTES: Rd 06 vs Richmond
I don't think any other specialist forwards have appeared in the votes. But anyway, it's all in the eye of the beholder. The only votes that matter at all are the coaches. It's nice we all get a chance to have an opinion on Demonland and sometimes it's similar to the coaching panel, or the media and often it isn't.
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VOTES: Rd 06 vs Richmond
Gawn wasn't listed in the best in the Age last week either and got 8 coaches votes. I wouldn't pay too much attention to the Ronny Lerner's (HS) and Courtney Walsh's (the Age) of the world.
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VOTES: Rd 06 vs Richmond
He was ok. Not vote worthy in my opinion but he played alright. He went at 63% DE from 9 kicks and 18 handballs. 14 contested possessions. His misses on goal were poor for a specialist forward and some of turnovers (9) were very poor.
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VOTES: Rd 06 vs Richmond
Just got home and haven't seen a replay so going off my recall of the game and the ringing in my ears of the Tiger fans around me. 6. Oliver 5. Gawn 4. Langdon 3. May 2. Petty 1. Bowey The Tiger fans were most appreciative of Oliver and Gawn - apparently there is no kryptonite for either, although Nankervis tried very hard. They were ecstatic that Tracc had not much influence.
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TEAMS: Rd 06 vs Richmond
You've summed it up well. When Salem ( mid small) got injured in round 1, McDonald (a tall) was moved back to cover. I reckon they count Smith as a hybrid so he in effect becomes the fourth small. McDonald, May and Petty give us our preferred structure and Brayshaw takes Viney's place in the midfield rotations.
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VOTES: Rd 05 vs GWS
I actually thought that Gawn handled Flynn pretty easily. Most of Flynn's influence was when he was against Jackson in the middle or McDonald in our forward line. It was one of Jackson's poorer efforts in the ruck and he couldn't handle Flynn's big body. Gawn and May, when the game was actually a contest were by far the two best players for us. Part of our clearance issue was Petracca. He's a great player, but his strength isn't centre clearance. I thought he had an ok first half and a much better second half. But he's a star and like Gawn has a bar that seems so much higher than nearly everyone else in the competition.
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The very, very contentious 50 for Dissent Rule
They nearly ruined the Hawthorn-Geelong game with that rubbish rule. Good on the Hawks for gritting their teeth and getting on with it.
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COACHES VOTES: Round 5, 2022
10 May 8 Gawn 6 Petracca 4 Oliver 2 Spargo Fantastic to see Spargo rewarded for his game. Interesting that both coaches saw it exactly the same. Petracca now moves into outright second on 26, Oliver is equal 7th on 21 and Gawn equal 11th on 18. May is equal 13th on 17. LEADERBOARD VOTES PLAYER CLUB Votes Pending: Interim leaderboard 29 Andrew Brayshaw FRE 26 Christian Petracca MELB 25 Patrick Cripps CARL 24 Bailey Smith WB 22 Jordan De Goey COLL 22 Lachie Neale BL 21 Jeremy McGovern WCE 21 Touk Miller GCFC 21 Callum Mills SYD 21 Clayton Oliver MELB 18 Shai Bolton RICH 18 Max Gawn MELB 17 Tom Green GWS 17 Isaac Heeney SYD 17 Jack Higgins STK 17 Steven May MELB 16 Jack Crisp COLL 16 Changkuoth Jiath HAW 16 Darcy Parish ESS 16 Jack Sinclair STK 16 Jack Steele STK
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Low Attendance
Jaded you have never been more right, and you are right often! I live in Langwarrin, drive to Caulfield with my son to miss the adhoc train works that seem to happen anytime on the Frankston and Cranbourne lines and as members we have had absolutely no problem getting access. Your ticket appears through the MFC app a couple of days before the game. The ticketing issue is overblown. Our team deserve to run out to a big home crowd whenever and whoever they play. They have given us reason to proud to be MFC supporters and the least we can do is turn up to watch them put on the show.
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POSTGAME: Rd 05 vs GWS
Gawn and May were both outstanding when the game was a genuine contest. Spargo played a great game too. The crowd was terribly disappointing. This is a fantastic team who deserve to be playing in front of 40,000 plus every week. I certainly enjoyed myself there tonight. Was a great night for footy.
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VOTES: Rd 05 vs GWS
6. Gawn 5. May 4. Spargo 3. Petracca 2.Viney 1. Oliver
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TEAMS: Rd 05 vs GWS
Jackson currently at 2.8% hitouts to advantage from a 38.5% hit out win rate. Both rate below average. Gawn 50% hitout win (elite) and 7.5% hit out to advantage (below average). NicNat 53% hitout win (elite) 8.7% to advantage (below average). Tim English 35.5% hitout win rate 5.8% to advantage (both below average). Brodie Grundy 45% hit out win rate (elite) 9.4% to advantage (elite). The margin between elite and below average is obviously minimal (Grundy at 9.4 (elite) v NicNat 8.7 (below ave)) But anyway, Dogga does not have more hits to advantage. That is a complete furphy. Gawn is a far superior tap ruck to Jackson. However Jackson provides a great point of difference with his follow up work. Stats courtesy of AFL app. Petracca only averages 1.8 centre clearances and 3 stoppage clearances. Oliver 3.3 centre clearances (elite) and 5 stoppage clearances. Viney 1.3 centre clearance and 3.3 stoppage clearances. Gawn 1.5 centre clearance and 3.8 stoppage clearance. Our ruckman is our second best clearance player. By comparison Jackson goes at 1.3 centre clearance and 1.8 stoppage.
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AFLW: 2022 Best & Fairest
Congratulations to the winners. Was a very even team performance and I'd say Daisy's consistency is probably what got her over the line. She didn't play any poor games but had the one real standout v Freo and then was amongst the best half dozen or so in about 5 or 6 other games. I liked Birch this year. Thought she really stood out in a May/Lever kind of way. Harris and Hanks were both excellent in patches and Lauren Pearce was consistently good. When only three votes separate the top 7 players it's really luck of the draw.