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I wonder what Cam Smith, Cooper Cronk and Billy Slater would have to say about this matter. Or Andrew Gaff Or Matthew Pavlich Or Patrick Dangerfield Or Adam Goodes Or Buddy Franklin Or Lachie Neale Point is that there is plenty of evidence that the go home factor is irrelevant, if the culture is what you desire and you have great relationships.

I have - and I found a lazy $500k for him behind my couch. ?

I take your point about the need to move someone on. I disagree that it will be Jackson. Whilst TMAC is playing fantastic - those 'mutual' conversations last year between the club and him, would still have him 'flicking v's at the FD (if I was him) and I would happily walk irrespective what occurs for the team by the end of this season. I would imagine TMAC will be gone - and he is doing himself (and as a by product the team) the world of good for an extra opportunity at another club. It's a unique circumstance (still having a contract, no suitors, retained at club), he is performing well, and adhering to structure (so, also extremely coachable considering context ) even though he wasn't wanted. His is a truly courageous story. I'll slot him in for greener pastures on the Gold Coast in 2022. Jackson will remain.

All this just as he has broken a finger? What are the pointers that he is looking at leaving @Mental Demons?

Thanks @Drunkn167 for the link on the ABC website. For me what was helpful - was sense making around turnovers. For those that are quick to criticise players that have turnovers- here is a neat little graph to lower your expectations and ground it into the reality of playing at the elite level. I presume that I don't need to explain the graph.

1. Checks Demonland 435 times a day... it's a cultural edifice. 2. Likes the 'witty people' that post things on Demonland 3.First and last thing that is checked daily on computer/phone. 4. Questions whether this is 'life structuring' or merely 'enthusiastic' 5. In denial that it impacts on daily functioning and being present with family.

That's what I use as well. AFL STATS PRO

Musings... Perhaps it's an over correction. In the sense of, there seems to be an edict that it's 'ok' to lose a clearance. Thus it's psycholgically easier against bigger bodied mids to not go 'quite' as hard - as there is a fail safe outlet 40-60 away from the oppositions kick. @binman and @Axis of Bob have detailed how the midfielders now set up, with one spare at the back in a centre bounce/clearance situation. So that should we lose the clearance, we have a greater likelihood of intercepting the ball.At the same time we are honouring the much vaunted skills of Petracca, Oliver etc. Without Viney though - the pressure from him against strong bodied midfielders (Cunnington/Kennedy etc) is clearly not there - hence the clearance differential. As @Clint Bizkitmentioned earlier today - if this is not rectified - Cripps will have a field day - and it's then about whether their forwards can capitalise. I am interested in the strategy of Oliver starting away from the ball and coming in at pace. Whilst that's a good option with a tag that he is finding difficult to shake - is it part of on ongoing strategy regardless of a tag? Clarry is clearly fantastic in and up close distributing the ball out, so by starting further away - we lose that great ability of his. I didn't watch the game as I was at a 40th (and an AFL coach was there, who was seemingly far more interested in the game on his phone and updates than the dinner party convo) #humblebrag Anyway... by Clarry starting wide, I wanted to know who his direct opponent was - so in essence, what advantage did it give us, or what did we nullify for the Swans?

Anything you’re not concerned about?

How pleasant it is to have the luxury that it is no biggie if we lose, and that if we win, we get further away from the pack who are taking 4 points off one another weekly. Brown for 3 goals 2 ANB for 2 goals 3 Pickett to upstage Bolton's mark of the year contender.

More from stats insider. Beating top 8 teams is not indicative of your capacity to win the GF. So in the AFL, is there any truth to the well-trodden sports cliche that to be the best, you’ve got to beat the best? Well……Not really. In fact, it’s increasingly acceptable to be a relatively middling team against top-8 opposition during the home and away season, with such form not necessarily forming an impediment upon a club’s premiership aspirations. In 2014, Hawthorn went 5-5 in the home and away season against fellow top-8 rivals yet successfully claimed its third flag in seven seasons. Speaking of 5-5, that was the record the Eagles took into their Finals campaign twelve months later, and it didn’t get in the way of them booking a Grand Final rendezvous against the Hawks. When the Bulldogs won their ground-breaking 2016 flag, they entered September carrying just a 4-5record against their Final’s brethren, as well as a forgettable 88.9 percentage. In 2018, the Pies came within a kick of winning its 16th club premiership. It's record against top-8 foes during the home and away season? How about 1-7, with an 81.6 percentage to boot. While Richmond’s 2020 flag was achieved with a 4-2 record and solid 121.7 percentage against the best, it’s 2017 and 2019 triumphs were accomplished with suspect form against top-8 combatants, combining for just a 9-8 record and an unremarkable 90.1 percentage. " Apologies about the [censored] formating.

100% Harmes is in for a specific shut down job. It's the only logical conclusion looking from the outside in. A hardened body to compete with Kennedy. If Viney was fit, he would be 'languishing' in the two's.

Nice little article from James Rosewarne about scoring potency across the league. We’ve learnt that despite Melbourne’s blistering start, so many of its offensive metrics sit in contrast to their rest-of-the-ground dominance. It’s perhaps a scary thought to consider how much room for improvement exists within this Demons squad.

The fact that anyone would start a thread on this is hilarious. SEN is pulp fiction - it's media trash and has been since Crocmedia moved in and should thus be treated that way. If you're getting your news from this source and subsequently taking personally, I'd be questioning a range of things...

Why not @Mazer Rackham?

It is my understanding that allegedly Beams was paid outside the salary cap through personal means of one or a few leviathan(s) of the club. If this is true, what galls me is that the AFL have provided a means around engaging in punitive and public measures. If this is true, then we are all witnesses to a sport which unfortunately whilst bedded in grass roots, is now as cynical as any business. We know this to be true and yet we still engage with it - we are complicit. Perhaps I need to go support the local BFL teams more fervently.

2 things. 1) I hear how long demonology was around for, and then I myself only realised there were AFL supporters forums online, 4 years ago... and stumbled across this one, and wish I had come across it early in my life. The Demonology personalities sound like they were far more abrasive than on here. 2) This is a pretty meta thread.

I'm not crying! no no, You're crying!! no, no no, no no - We're both crying!!!!!

Whilst it is apparent for some that Goodwin can't coach, it appears EVERYONE loves Goodwin at the club, so why WOULDN'T Merrett want to come (sorry for yelling)

Imagine if it was Cyril..

I'm sure there is no coincidence that Christian was not sighted on AFL 360 tonight - me thinks....

Rhys Stanley? ?

Geelong did an us last week - an us of 2019 that is. Inside 50's through the roof - but failed to capitalise. Geelong lost it, Sydney did not win it..but got the points....ahhh you get my drift. The concerns for me are like everyone. How does Petty go second time around? Great that it's a forced change as he will get a run in the team for continuities sake. With Viney a confirmed out, does the in - Sparrow? Harmes? operate in a Viney-esque way - even at 70% Viney, and is that sufficient as a defensive midfielder. I'm excited to see Ben Brown second time up - I look forward to him kicking 6 goals, 4 of them free kicks for chopping of the arms :) I wonder about Gawn being down, as to what drove that... is he slightly ill/injured? Hickey will throw his weight around. Finally, Fritsch is a huge loss - I feel he is underrated on here. But... we have the luxury of being about to lose a match (and perhaps one more) without falling back to the pack so to speak. So there is time to build synergy again with the newbies coming into the squad for a lengthy period of time. Prediction: Melbourne by 11 points, running over the top after trailing by 7 at 3/4 time.

Holy Moses @dieter!! Happy to chat about it if you want to PM me, I’m all for a classless society and debating nuances - but can we leave the Kozzie Pickett thread for views on Kozzie Pickett??