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Rodney (Balls) Grinter

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  1. On 26/12/2016 at 7:56 AM, Whispering_Jack said:

    I'm thinking of reviving our Book of Numbers series and for starters, I reckon it's time for a look at Number Eight.

    My favourite player to wear the guernsey was the late  Bob "Tassie" Johnson who passed away last year.

    Late AFL great Robert "Tassie" Johnson lives on in enduring love affair on the Sunshine Coast

    Tassie was a great exponent of the drop kick and holds the club record for most games wearing the number 8 (202). He played mainly at full back where he was a true champion of the game but on the odd occasion would also go into the ruck and performed well there.

    The list of players who wore the number from 1912 to the present day:

    1912 Fred Harris  (also #29 in 1912, #7 in 1914, #28 in 1919)
    1913 Jack A "Dodger" Evans
    1914 A "Bert" Trahair
    1915 Jack A ‘Dodger’ Evans (see 1913 above)
    1919-1925 Charlie Lilley (also #6 in 1913 and 1915, #11 in 1914)
    1926 Herbert White 
    1931-1932 W ‘Bull’ Adams
    1933 - 1941 Rowley Fischer
    1942-1943 Don Hewson 
    1945 Ralph Latham 
    1946-1947 Roy Stabb (also #22 in 1945)
    1948-1951 Doug Heywood  (also #25 in 1943, #26 in 1944)
    1952 Ian Toyne 
    1952 Maurie Lehmann 
    1953 Don Cameron
    1954 Geoff Collins  (also #3 1948 to 1952)
    1955 Kevin Clarke 
    1956 - 1957 Jim Sandral
    1959-1969 Bob "Tassie" Johnson
    1970-1975 Peter Keenan   (also #10 1981-1982)
    1976-1978 Peter Johnston 
    1979 Glenn Elliott 
    1980-1982 Brent Crosswell
    1983 Les Bamblett 
    1984 Peter Thorne  (also #40 1978 to 1979)
    1985-1995 Graeme Yeats  (also #45 in 1984)
    1996 Craig Turley 
    1999 Jeff Farmer  (also #33 1995 to 2001 and changed back to 33 during the 1999 season)
    2000 James Cook 
    2001-2006 Alistair Nicholson
     (also #44 1997 to 2000)
    2007-2014 James Frawley
    2015- 2016 Heritier Lumumba

    Bring it on Jack.

    How about No.6 next?

  2. On 23/12/2016 at 9:07 AM, Satan said:

    Gawn vs richmond  r5 this year on now with the player fka obrien playing

    Watched that game last night, along with Rd 15 Vs Collingwood.  In fact the player fka O'Brien features in quite a few of the games and dispite some distain of said player on this forum, Harry (can't spell his new one) is actually quite serviceable in most of them.

    Back to da Gawn Dawg - contrast Rd 15 Vs Collingwood 2015 where he is out on his feet late in the third quarter (and much to the amusement of the commentators pretty much stuck hands on hips in the same spot at CHB for the last 5 mins of the qtr), compared to Rd 20 Vs Hawthorn 2016, where big Maxy just powers on with his dominant marking and ruck work full of running.  What a difference a full preseason and further physical development makes - now multiply that out for a few more in our developing list and watch the positive match day results flow!!

  3. Speaking of the suspended Collingwood players, based on the lack of punishment handed out by the AFL, GWS and any future culprits would have to think that rolling the dice and avoiding a drug test is better than subjecting players to drug testing.  The Collingwood boys got a full season for their positive drugs test, where as Whitfield, GWS got a slap on the wrist and less than half a season for their dishonest behaviour - well done AFL, massive opportunity to send the right message missed.

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  4. 17 minutes ago, DubDee said:

    76 goals 39 pts for Jesse in 2017

    Watts, Tracc, Lewis and Kent will be hitting him up every time

    screw all this roaming up the ground talk! let him kick goals

    So effective goal kicking routine implemented over the preseason - like it.

    IMHO, there were games this that Jessie's wayward kicking was a big contributor to our loss.  The Bulldogs game stands out to me.  Simply must kick most of the most gettable set shots on goal.

  5. 6 hours ago, John Dee said:

    Zero divided by zero is 1 as is evidenced by zero to the power zero being 1; something from nothing.

     

    The function y = 1/x. As x approaches 0 from the right, y approaches infinity.  Anyway infinity seems like a good number of goals for Hogan to kick...just play along.

  6. 2 hours ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

    Give him some decent delivery and if he straightens up his kicking action, then 60 plus is not beyond him.

    If we play the fast direct down the guts Goodwin style of footy, then that will give him every chance, combined with Jordan's Hawthorn pin point foot passing.

     The club should make Jack Watts his practical conjoined twin over the summer.  Jack can learn more of Jessie's combative one on one skills and competitive moungrul and Jack can teach Jessie set shots on goal and perhaps how to better manage his body language.

  7. On 15/12/2016 at 6:01 PM, Bigred said:

    Now THAT is a good signing

    Well done. Fantastic 

    He has 'nailed his reputation to our mast'

    He would not stick around if he didn't think we were going to get there 

    Well done everyone at the Club.

    I just want to know when PJ is pulling on the boots and running out with the team - I recon he'd go alright.

  8. 9 hours ago, Demon Jack said:

    Haha, I remember that one fondly. It was a completely different team back then. I think only Jones, Watts, Jetta, Trengove and a beardless Gawn (who made his debut that night) remain from that game. Quite remarkable really.

    I don't think Max had a huge impact on the game, but I remember him clunking what is now known as a trademark 'Maxy grab' in the goalsquare against Dustin Fletcher and proceeded to miss the shot from 10m directly out in front. 

    Not totally sure I remember it, but was it the one where Col Garland played at FF and kicked a small bag?

    We had the wood on the Dons for a few years there, when they were on a competitive side and we were bloody hopeless - those tables have certainly turned in the last few years.  If I recall correctly 2011 they were practically unbeaten until we played them at their drugged up peak.

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  9. So for Foxtel suscribers, next Friday is a good day to start you Christmas leave early or queue up some recordings on the iQ for some classic big Maxy (and MFC wins) showing on the Fox Footy channel.  Eight whole games in total starting with Rd 11, 2011 Vs Essendon, cumulating with Rd 20, 2016 Vs Hawthorn.

    ...hanging out big time!

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  10. On 6/12/2016 at 6:20 PM, Ron Burgundy said:

    So much rests on Max Gawn remaining uninjured for the entire season.

     

    I know whereas you are comming from, but I disagree in principal.

    If we are going to become a successful side, then we need to develop ways of winning without a dominant ruckman.  Very few sides have a ruckman close to the dominance of big Maxy, yet there were around 10 that finished above us this season.  Even if he is fit and in form for the majority of the season, we will need to win games where Maxy is beaten/nutralised or has an off day.

  11. On 24/10/2016 at 1:52 PM, nutbean said:

     

     

    From last year.....

    "Why on earth would we give Hunt another year on the senior list? He has done nothing at all to date to suggest he will be an AFL player.

    Three years is what we gave Toumpas to prove himself, and he showed a million times more promise in that time than Hunt has."

    Hindsight is a wonderful thing, ay ? The problem is  - there is ruthless and reckless - you give players some time to show their worth and some will reward you and some will be a bust.

     

     

    Yes, but Mitchie came to us with a number of years already under his belt at a senior AFL club, Hunt did not.

    I'm still bemused why Mitchie got such a run in the senior this year compared to Grimes, who showed far more potential at AFL level IMHO.

  12. My expectation is that if we start to string together some good form and push up into the top 8, all the media will start talking us up as the next WB.

    Whilst I do think we will improve next year, I'm also one in the camp of being cautiously optermistic and realistic.  I'm thinking if we do make finals, I'll be somewhere on the spectrum between releived and elated.  If we don't make finals, I won't be totally supprised and so long as we don't completely capitulate or regress, I'm not sure I'll be all that concerned or dispondant.

    I think I've seen enough good signs this year to indicate that we have the core talent, work ethic and solid coaching/off field support to set us up to make a really decent crack of it in years to come.  Sounds a bit cliche and perhaps I've been drinking a bit much of the Paul Roos bathwater, but I'm really more looking forward to a few years time, when we will find out if we have developed into just a good team capable of making finals or a great one that is capable of winning them and going all the way.

    Other than that I do expect us to finally beat North and St Kilda and I'll take those as my moments of joy for the footy year. They say that every game is worth 4 points, but I think there is a bit of a physiological victory to be had in winning those ones which is worth more than just the 4 points, similar to the Hawks win this year.

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  13. Interesting to note that jumper design has become a board level issue at the Tigers:

    The colour of Richmond's jumper has become a board election issue, with aspirants Simon Wallace and Peter Casey promising to get the guernsey right.

    The Tigers have also been working behind the scenes for at least six months to make sure their new apparel range would be a true reflection of their 'yellow and black' tradition.

    "Our jumper is who we are … yellow and black are not just our colours, they are the best line in the best (club) song," Wallace wrote in his campaign prospectus.

    "It should be yellow and black, not the charcoal and mustard that it now is."

    http://m.afl.com.au/news/2016-12-01/charcoal-and-mustard-to-yellow-and-black-tigers-hope-for-new-jumper

  14. 33 minutes ago, Mad_Melbourne said:

    do you buy the home jumper every year?
    The demonland population whilst a strong supporter base does not reveal a majority of the members, and whilst a majority of demonland supporters are vehemently against it, it is a small sample of actual supporters.

    The new jumper design allows us to have a much clearer association with Melbourne as a name, rather than football club, which personally I think will lead to an increase in jumper sales due to tourism industry. Not only that but we are trying to increase our brand to take over the city of Melbourne and whilst if you follow AFL the colours make sense, but if you do not follow football and you were shown several jumpers there would be no association to the name of the team and thus the logo on the front is a clear association.

    I personally am not against it, although I think it is a lazy design, it is hardly the abomination that people make it out to be. Sure a white jumper has no linkings to our past, this is fine, but the clash jumper is something that will continue to exist and whilst the AFL continues to suggest that there are clashes and we need to avoid them, then why not embrace something which can increase our influence in the Melbourne area but also help increase club profits.

    I'm not against what the club is trying to do with the new logo and the whole marketing campaign to broaden the appeal of the club. Quite to the contrary. However we shouldn't sell out on our core identity to go chasing a few cheap tourist $.

    The new logo looks great on the all red polos the club has on sale and I think many tourists and members alike (including myself) are more likely to purchase a classy looking item like that, than the tacky looking clash jumper.  Further the AFL has clearly accepted that the all white is not required for some and just need to accept that red can provide a sufficient colour contrast for the MFC as other non white colors such as yellow for the WCE.

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  15. 13 hours ago, old dee said:

    Are you sure the club is against a white jumper RBG?

    Pretty sure it is old dee.  'The Club' being it's members, well you get a pretty good indication from the results of the Demonland survey which shows the vast majority hate it, a result which in my mind is validated by the views of other members/supporters outside of Demonland that I know personally.  Would be interesting for the club to do a survey of members on this issue.

    I think the clubs administration is well aware of this.  When you look at the merchandise in the Demon shop, there is virtually no items that feature a predominance of white, other than the abomination of a clash jumper proposed for 2017.  Similarly the same propotion of our printed material from the club features our red v on blue jumper, or red and blue. In corporate gobildegook, I think this reflects that even our marketing people know our brand is red and blue for which our heart beats true.

  16. 3 hours ago, DeeZee said:

    They should make tomorrow's training  session compulsory , even if your injured or not you have to turn up to show support to the boys and start the preseason united.

    Bet the Prince still wouldn't show.

    If he is 'not fit to physically train', then you would assume that he would be obligated to be put on some kind of light duties with the rehab group.  If he is not playing ball by the club Re training and or rehab and assuming he is not going through the proper conflict resolution pathway without a manager or the AFLPA assistance, then the club probably has some kind of legal comeback for breach of contract etc.

    Playing the breach of contract card may not be the best PR outcome, but it may be a decent bargaining chip to ensure that the club doesn't get screwed over by some compensation claim.  Overall, assuming the situation is as reported and Lumumba doesn't play 2017, then it's really just damage minimisation for the club, as we have already effectively lost a list spot for 2017.

    I find it all a bit of a shame really as my impression was that Lumumba was starting to play some good footy again early 2016 and from the outside appeared to be a decent (be it different) kind of bloke around the club.  Guessing that when faced with the prospect of immanent retirement and loss of substantial income, Lumumba is just acting out of self interest and trying to ensure his immediate financial security, which would be partly understandable, but somewhat regrettable from the clubs and typical supporters perspective.

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  17. It would be rather unfortunate really, should Lumumba retire in comming weeks as predicted, the sentimentalist in me would have loved to see Grimes take his spot again as a delisted FA (if that's even possible), as unlikely as it would be.

    Turning down "bigger" money offers to play footy with his mates, says a lot about the true spirit of the game and sport that some others would do well to take note of.

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  18. 17 hours ago, dpositive said:

    Don't disagree that winning is the priority but identity which is is reinforced through adherence to the mantra of the red and blue can imbue confidence and assurance that can simplify the focus on performance.

    I'm sick of hearing the line that "we are not one of the power clubs, thus we have no chance of getting a favourable outcome on this and other matters for the MFC...".

    It's great are well on the on-field road to recovery (and as you suggest most that want away with white clash jumpers would agree that is the priority), but it's about time that we started acting like winners off the field as well, stand up and take pride in our club and it's identity, rather than adopting a weak loosers attitude that some seem happy to accept.

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