Rodney (Balls) Grinter

Just interested to know how many of those that would trade Jack for his off-feild behavior would have sacked Oliver after his drink driving at the start of the season and how many of those still would now.

I agree, but on the positive, at least we are now close enough to be disappointed. In years gone by, we were so far off the mark, this kind of talk wouldn't have occured. It would have been more like "we had a few (three or four) wins during the year and got to within a few points of winning a few others, which shows what this team is building towards, but we also had some were really disappointing performances (referring to 100+ point losses) and we know we have to get that out of our game"...no mention of finals. But I agree that Jones in disapointent in particular sounded pretty scriped, robotic and insincere. I'm sure that it was sincere, but it didn't really come across with a lot of passion, as I think Jones is probably pretty fatigued of telling that story.

I actually think that picking up Maynard and Joel Smith somewhat makes up for us trading away our high picks and this recruitment of young top end tallent from the draft over the last few years. Some really screwd recruitment through alternate pathways. I'm hoping they prove me wrong, but I don't think we picked up anyone of great potential from last year's draft other than Hannan.

I think you answered your own question. His rate of development last season was huge and if it continues, he could form a vital and much needed midfield grunt and depth. With Bernie's days in the midfield pretty much over and my perception that Jones has past his peak in this area, my view is that we desperately need some more players to stand up and for fill those roles. I think Jake Melksham plays the shutdown hard tag on gun oppo midfielders pretty well. If Maynard can be as good an extractor as his VFL contested possessions and put that hard physical pressure on the opposition's mids, it would somewhat free up those with a bit more class and skill like Oliver, Salem and Brayshaw to play more of a role in moving and distibuting the ball out from the guts more effectively. I'm also of the view that you can't have too many hard tough midfielders, like the Brisbane Lions of the early 2000s. This guy certainly fits that mold.

Walker Texas Ranger - Leaver leaving for the money. Puss of Tex, he's no $cully $cum.

1. Clary - so raw and unpolished with the microphone, how it should be. Interesting the reference to Billy Stretch's example again. Watching his highlights - please kick the ball more than you handball next season; 2. Vines - sensed an envy of Clary, comming from the ultra compeditive beast within Jack. Probably shouldn't have come back so quick from that injury. Stop talking about us being a young club full of kids - enough mature blokes around now that are and should act and play like men (yourself included), please stop this crap excuse now; 3.1 Jones - is his best footy past him? Smooth talker. Good mates don't stab each other in the back in public. Please keep that son interested in footy; 3.2 Lewis - Definitely red and blue now, even though he thought we supporters wouldn't like him. Thanks Todd. Fox footy, please stop showing him in that yellow and brown [censored]. To be honest when we played the Dorks late last year, I thought he was washed up, so glad he proved me wrong. Been exposed to the Trac. Also having twin boys, need to get another 80 odd games onto this bloke too; 5. Nev - Great human, now understand why he didn't feature in JLT. Softly sopken, buy highly respected; 6. Goody - Lost me a bit with the explorer analogy. Need to employ your hall of fame speach writer for the club B&F next time: 7. Trenners - love this bloke. Didn't the other former Melbourne skipper win this award last yeat? (Things might not be looking up for you Nathan!?). Probably walked into the club a professional according to Gawny. Spoke about playing with and for your mates - something I think almost gets lost in this era of ruthless proffesionalisim. Dropped a few F bombs and I didn’t know anyone still drank Melbourne Bitter or is that an another analogy? (Please don't take that seriously, Jack was nothing but glowing and respectful of the MFC and completly dignified in his behavior); 8. Wattsy - proverbial elephant in the room (but not in a negative way). As mentioned by others, seems to be great mates and loved by his team mates. MFC showing the AFC how not to be a petty bunch of sooky la la's.

Yep, soo many games we should have, could have - North (twice), Hawthorn, Freo, Collingwood. I can understand us just scraping in against Carlton the second time given how injury depleted we were at the times, but to not beat the Lions by more when we were clearly dominating and even going back to Rd 1 when we were 50 points up to let St Kilda get back to within 30 or so, shows a lack of ruthlessness to me that in the end cost us finals. To me, horror starts against North, Hawthorn and Collinwood (twice) then brain fades against Freo and North are what cost us a finals spot, to me that reeks of bad coaching and leadership. I haven't heard Jones or Goodwin speak in recent times, but have they taken ownership for these failings as freely as they have expressed their displeasure in Watts?

Absolutely. I'm sure that it's been said before, but where do Adelaide get off thinking that two first rounders for Lever is anything like market value? Two first rounders is what they parted with for Dangerfield and good as he may be, Lever is no Dangerfield. Granted the Crows had a weaker hand with Dangerfield being a FA, but with Lever being out of contract, they don't exactly have a strong hand either. Adelaide themselves were not prepared to part with two first round picks for that Carlton bloke (Bryce Gibbs was it) last year either. Get real Crows, take it or Lever leaves for nothing.

Jeff is exibit A in why Jack Watts shouldn't be let go for peanuts.

Thought his set shots this year we're a vast improvement on last year. 42.28 is pretty good really. If I recall correctly a bad and particularly critical exception to his steadiness in front of goal was the final round against the Pies. Missed at least one, if not more set shots that he would have gobbled up earlier in the season... was not alone in that though.

I wouldn't accept anything less than a mid second round pick for Jack. Pleanty of baggers on his lack of intensity and physicallity, but the facts are this guy also has elite feild kicking, decision making and goal kicking skills. His 2016 season was outstanding and he was one of our key contributors on half a dozen occasions this season. I'd rather play him in the side for half season next year than trade him for peanuts. When he plays enough twos he will find that hunger and would be a match winner on the occasions he did play.

Has always been tallent and like the way he goes about his business with a minimum of fuss. Was a little dicky in front of goals in his first few forays forward, but it's pretty clear that once he was given the task on a more permanent basis, he put some time into his set shot routine and was excellent in front of goals.. I recon our permanent forwards are gelous of the free kicks he was able to attract and I'm sure he was much happier to be receiving them in front of our goals than giving them away in front of the oppositions - a bit of karma.

Generally agree, but $1M per season isn't what it use to be and won't be in 3 seasons time at the end of his contract. Lever waited until the new EBA was out for a good reason.

Assuming we get this deal done and Lever goes on to have a distinguished career with the MFC , it would be very sweet revenge for loosing Scott Tompson to them all thoset years ago.

Yeah, I half get you here, but FFS you would expect Adelaide to at least put up a fight though. To be honest, I thought we really should have won the flag in 2000, but Swartz Neitz and others were weak as Pissss.

You meant they were there was an Adelaide side out there?

Tainted.

Well, can someone please tell me how the F that just happened?

The way they are playing today, I don't think they thew it. Tex has done nothing, just like 3/4 of the rest of their side. Adelaide would have to be one of the flakiest minor premiours in a number of years.

Seriously, how did Brian Taylor get a gig as a comentator on grandfinal day?

Holding the ball against Richmond, no excuses.

Gee wiz, if only the MFC got half of the BS free kicks the Tigers are getting, we would be in the GF too.

Good first up season for the red and blue. No out and out superstar, but solid, workman like and capable at the top level. Exactly the type of player we can move foward with, having more of in the team, plays his role and gets on with the job. Silenced some of the critics in the back half of the season. Will be good to see what this bloke and Hibbard can do for us backing up next year, with the benifits of comming off a solid year of footy rather thana year in exile.

Agreed. They should consider taking the voting off the umpires and or give the goal umpires a vote. It's a little hard to understand how it has become so midfielder dominated when there are so many umpires off the ball.

So he hasn't only been giving me the shiiitS all night. Bookmaker sum of the earth... only one step down from a drug dealer.