SFebes

Yes it is apparently chosen by the public.

Well seeing as this is an umpiring thread and the Brownlow is voted by the umpires I'll have a rant. @Lucifer's Hero sums it up very well! So we have the deliberate (no votes) to Danger to avoid embarrasment of winning. Then we also have GOTY, winner being indigenous which is great as they are the real stars but there would've been 20 better goals this year, even Oliver v Adelaide & Hunts 75m torpedo into the wind were better IMO, not to mention 5-10 of Eddie Betts' goals and the best one of all IMO was Buddy's..... Then MOTY - Howe did Howe not win this? He was told to be sitting in his seat when it was announced and funny enough it was given to an Essendon player, who I think the AFL are trying to get everyone forgive after their drug cheating scandal. I even think Puopulo's mark was better than JD's! Now apparently these awards are voted by the public? But everyone at least thought Howe should have got MOTY. Which leads me suspect the AFL intervened and rigged it all. Just my thoughts, but I have no trust in the current AFL administration one bit. Gil needs to go. And all in the same week as Cotchin, captain of a participating GF team, gets off the MRP with no case to answer? When he clearly tucked his arms in, lead with his shoulder and caused concussion - if he was going for the ball adamantly he would've had his hands out to grab it, any other week during during the year he would've been rubbed out or got a fine, which would see his missing the GF...AFL wouldn't let it happen, AFL wants Richmond to win the Premiership. If Dangerfield laid his "dangerous tackle" in the Pre-lim, do you think he would be playing the GF? Yes he would. Did Andrew McGrath deserve the Rising Star ahead of Powell-Pepper or Burton? McGrath another Essendon player. James Hird to present the Norm Smith after his indiscretions? Essendon. The whole thing is getting unbearable to watch, but Gil and his puppets will call it the best season ever due to the closeness of the games, where if one watched closely, umpires evened up games themselves. The whole game needs an overhaul, but they will get away with it due to the "results." What gives me hope is maybe one day soon the AFL will want the Mighty Dees to win a premiership after a long draught, but personally, I hope we do it the hard way and our own way.

Nah he's a Dees supporter.

Is he here yet?

Actually good points, where has Goodwin, Jackson and Bartlett been all year? Where are the leaders?

How dare you not over-complicate it!

Disagree there, they've been kissed on the dick with injuries this year, that severely helps their cause.

He should have got a fine that related to a suspension, but, no way the AFL was going to let a teams captain not play GF day. If MRP were to follow letter of the law, he would miss. Just adds to the corruption of the game, that I'm sure of. I'm not saying he should of been rubbed out, but a fine was warranted and his previous misdemeanours would have him out. Anyway, we move on.

Trade rumours make me laugh, if Barrett or Nixon said we were getting Josh Kelly everyone would be licking their chops, because it's Hogan and Watts everyone squeals like a [censored]. It's just a trade rumour thread FFS, don't take it to heart. As more unfold, everyone should post them, all part of the fun.

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I've always questioned Jones' leadership, Viney has already shown more leadership in his short time than Jones ever has.

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My pleasure Stuie.

Jesse looks Rekt lol

That was from August 11th, its now September 25th. A lot can change in that time.

You mean like these media performances???

It was weak as [censored] - fluff & MFC go together

So will BK get the boot? Kent? If Kent can have a good pre-season and given the rocket he deserves, he could be a handy addition to what we haven't had all year. We really need to build up our depth.

Agree, was very weird, even the titanic music FFS.

Disgusting..lots of smiles and laughs from Jack, even re-enacted the QB goal with Titanic music FFS. What a weak and embarrassing club we are, how that even made the news makes me cringe. Clubs interested, Collingwood one. He's a nice guy with all the skills and no heart. Said no when asked about a rift between he and Goodwin. I'd say he's gone

Watts on 7news at 6:45 re his playing future apparently