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I have a whole new respect for our players and most AFL players who have to suck this excrement up week in week out. Both from the MRO and the umpires. How they keep their mouths shut without exploding is a credit to them.

Adrian's gotta watch Dennis Denuto in the castle one more time to get the vibe right for the defence. It's.. the vibe.. right?

No and no. They are Collingwood players. Not even a fine for the wonderful untouchable Collingwood captain. Fox Sports‘That’s a suspension’: Pies skipper ‘lucky’ to escape san...‘That’s a suspension’: Pies skipper ‘lucky’ to escape sanction for ‘non-football act’

Yeah there's not much guesswork when you look at the long form stats for both clubs on making the hard decisions and being ruthless.

I think most on here aren't blaming the umpires for our woes and losses. That problem should be firmly placed on Jack Watt's shoulders (joking) This thread is about umpiring standards. The standard is not very good at all and adds to the frustration when our team is playing so woefully. The adjudication is incredibly inconsistent. With the amount of money involved in the league, the fact umpires are not professional is a joke (even though Laura says the standard has never been better) - she sounds like a politician. If I'm watching a local league game, I expect umps just do their best. At AFL level, I expect that umpires get relegated and should be open to scrutiny if they are officiating poorly.

I saw that one yesterday. Disgraceful. The ump said to Jackson, you took a step. The kick was reversed and the pies had a shot on goal. I then watched players taking multiple steps off their line for the rest of the game before play on would be called. Players aren't standing the mark always anymore and players with the ball move a number of metres off their line before play on is called. There's no consistency in how the rules are applied. Insane. As was this 50m and gifted goal to the pies after a Freo player gestured towards the screen. No abuse no arguing, just a gesture, 50m. Yet players are back to arguing with umps all the time. https://www.facebook.com/reel/724315990200691?mibextid=9drbnH&s=yWDuG2&fs=e And it was another dodgy free kick paid in front of the goals for the pies to start with.

I'd normally be all up for the club to fight this properly but, I think we're best to put May on ice for the rest of the year anyway. Not only because of his concussion but he's not moving well at all. It's time to try a new backline setup for the rest of the year no matter how hard we get spanked

Dropped the Knees straight into the kidneys of the Freo player lying on the ground. Seems eerily similar..... Maynard and Moore are scumbags. Both of them should be cited Suck it pies

And then Jackson wins a free kick, shapes to handball but doesn't and is tackled on the mark. Another free kick to pies and a shot on goal. I really recommend people watch the last ten minutes of this match to watch the umpires go to work. Starting with a dog act by Maynard shoving a Freo bloke into the dugout and he gets a free kick after doing so. Great goal Luke Jackson. Freo have hit the front

Thanks I was thinking the same thing right. If the injury is now part of the assessment, May will miss a week through concussion. The Carlton bloke was bloodied but not concussed yeah?

Go Dockers. Make them lose their chit

David King is calling for 6 weeks now. It's just ridiculous for a straight contest at the ball. Nothing will be said by the club though

I forgot this game started early and missed most of it. Thanks for all the updates everyone. With May likely to get half a season off (David King's calling for 6 weeks now - compare that to Xerri's stiff arm across Sparrow's jaw for 3) for fairly competing for the ball last night, you would think Petty might be coming in as his replacement yeah? But he played forward all game again, is that right? Who comes in for May?

I switched on, saw Daicos throw his arm in the air, flop to the ground as the ball bounced off his chest and then get a holding free against his opponent 35 metres out from goal. The bloke hardly touched him. He went back, kicked the goal and I turned the TV off and went and watched the end of the Casey game. The game at the AFL level is rooted.

Great post. And the players buy in to the game plan as they start to see it working. This builds, effort, confidence, intensity, belief etc. I don't think the players would care if the game plan was boring, if they could actually see that it worked. It doesn't work and the trust and belief seems to be broken. Time to rip the band-aid off

Great post. I remember ANB talking about Yze as he was departing MFC. He said Yze helped transform his kicking game. Remember what a butcher he was early on. He said Yze taught him to take a breath and find time before kicking and it made a huge difference to his disposal and kicking. I wish he was our head coach now. I think we're really missing him I watched a bit of Norf and Tigers yesterday. I'm sure they'll go past us next year as their lists improve and their players develop their skills and learn to take a breath before disposing in a cohesive system. The tiges are looking pretty fast

Mmm, I think that's part of the problem. A good proportion of our players do try but the system doesn't work. Our list is not fantastic but it's not bad. Gawn tries, Salem tries, Petracca, Oliver, Viney, Langdon, JVR, Melksham, Disco etc all try. But they're working in a broken workplace that's completely chaotic on match day and standards and systems outside of match day that just aren't good enough. The coaching team have to drive the standards, skill development, decision making and processes. We need to pull the trigger now. Not end of the year when there's a few other teams looking for new coaches and assistants. We're destroying a fairly reasonable list and we're back to being a non-destination club with a sliding membership. But that's the thing, I think a lot of the players are really trying and it must be incredibly frustrating and soul destroying to be part of the decline. Think about JVRs journey over the last few years. Had to bust his guts to break into a side and then became our primary KPF with no real support around him and a delivery method into f50 that has been completed GARBAGE for 4 years! Oh and go and ruck for a third of the game too son. Good luck. How many other good clubs do that to their young and developing KPFs? Yes, Jeffo was terrifying in parts last night, but he's coming into a completely mad workplace. Of course his confidence and decision making will plummet. Just like JVRs has. He's only just crawling out of the hole somehow. Our poor decision making comes from a lack of confidence in the system and then each other. Not so much effort. Koz is just something else because he can do it all himself.

Come on, silver linings. The umps have got us a step closer to a new coach(es). I think Disco went forward for the last three minutes. Savvy move Simon. Jeffo gets himself in the right place. Just let him and JVR run the season out together up forward. There's nothing to really lose. Should we start a change.org petition to have Disco play forward with them and Petty to go back when May is suspended for a couple of years. Maysey really should have swung a stiff arm at the blokes jaw "going for the ball ya know". He'll end up with more weeks than Xerri because...... Our club is a little club. We don't stand up for ourselves. And, we don't make the hard decisions until it's too late and our membership whittles away. I love Kosi. Great to see Fritta play with aggro and ferocity. Langford will be a champ if we don't make him crumble. I can't recall seeing an AFL team kick it over their teammate's head over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. When do our wonderful women's team kick off? Gimme Stinnear over Goodwin any day

Last kick of the quarter, after a good handball chain, Lindsay pops it up in a looping kick to reward Melkshams lead by kicking it over his head. I swear this scenario has happened around 10 times for us so far. Our skills are as mad AF

He'll get 4 weeks. He shouldn't

Yep, there's a thing called a stab kick which hits your leading team mate in the guts. I think they even use a version of it in soccer

If you didn't know it was his first year. You'd look at Langford tonight and swear he was part of our leadership team. I'm sure we'll drive him into mediocrity by the middle of next year. Look at Windsor last year to where he's at this year. When there's complete chaos all around you as a young player, it must just keep chipping away at your confidence We seem to Excell at this for decades. The Paul Roos era seems to be the only time we seemed to build young players up in skills and confidence rather than seeing them crumble

I'm almost certain we must practice kicking it over our forwards heads. We do it so well, or kicking a bomb to any forward outnumbered two to one.

But he is. Remember his first year. How have our skills and standards dropped so much?

Another spud of a field kick by Sharp So many big loopy field kicks. Hardly a stab pass to be seen