xman97

My take on the WA vs SA game with players I kept an eye on. Excluding Woewodin, which I did a write up on the Woewodin forum page. -Mathew Roberts: BOG in my eyes. Played mostly inside mid for this game. I don't think we should pick an inside mid with our 1st pick this year, but Cal Twomey has said previously that he can play on a wing also, which is an area we should consider taking with our 1st pick. He seems quick enough. Elite kick, with really good spacial awareness. Just looked a class above to most of them today. -Angus Sheldrick: Next best on ground today imo. More likely a 2nd/3rd round pick as I don't see too much upside. He's a small inside mid and very tough at it. Not flashy at all but very competitive. -Jack Williams: A big body already which makes him a pretty slow mover. He can go in the ruck also which is of benefit to us if we have a long term outlook with Jackson as a Ruck/Fwd and Williams as a Fwd/Ruck. I would like to use our 2nd pick on him if he gets that far and if we don't pick up Van Rooyen or Amiss with our 1st pick. Seems ok without setting the world on fire. -Motlop: Looks like a really good small forward. I don't think we need another small forward, but he shows class. -Burgoyne: Looked really good. Smooth mover, pretty quick and neat skills. I'll be shocked if Port don't take him Father Sun! -O'Loughlin: Looks nearly identical to J.Impey for me. Nice small defender with not bad skills. Maybe worth a look later in the draft.

It's only 1 game, but I don't see how he gets drafted. Seems a bit one paced with no extra gears to go to when chasing etc. A few basic skill errors. Positives were, that he seems to get structurally in the right spot, with always looking at helping a team mate out in the defensive set up. Holds a nice width on the fat side wing. Seems to be always jogging or running where a lot of the guys stop to a walk when the ball leaves their area. There's not much X factor or anything about his game. But like I said from the top, this is 1 game. I haven't watched him before. Lets back in JT and crew for the right call on him.

He looked gassed with a couple of chase down efforts in the 2nd half of that 2nd qtr. Just keep in mind that these guys on the wing haven’t got a big tank yet. I still would like to see more though

Cheers mate. It makes sense seeing Adelaide wanted him, in which we couldn’t have offered another rookie contract, surely.

I think a key forward with our 1st pick also. Seeing there’s 2 positions to fill on the ground, I’d be comfortable banking on getting 1 free agent in the door. Getting 2 in the same year or 2 period, would be difficult. In 3 years time, lets say 2 of these happen, which is realistic: Weid (leaves for opportunity in 2 years), Dogga (leaves for WA), Tmac (only plays best 22 footy for only another 2 years). B.Brown (only plays best 22 footy for 3 years). So, in 3 years time, we then have 2 of the players above. If Weid or Dogga leave, we might only have 1 of the 4 players above, due to the possibility of Brown retiring at 32 yrs old and Tmac retiring at 31 yrs old. As we all know, the majority of key forwards take 2 to 4 years to make it into the best 22. In my opinion, we need to draft 1 this year, and 1 next year or the year after.

Do we know for sure that Chandler’s been upgraded to the primary list, or are we assuming he is? In the article they released, it doesn’t really specify.

I think we should do that also mate. With the lack of tall forwards in the top 30 prospects, I think Van Rooyen and Jack Williams might go closer to 15 to 20 range rather than in the 20 to 30 range like most mock drafts have them at. I would think our best bet is to try to offer more draft points than any other team to get the doggies pick 17, which will turn into 19. I think a KPF is a must with our 1st pick, due to the obvious, of the majority of elite key forwards are top 10 or 20 picks. This is the only position that we haven’t got elite young talent. This is considering Jackson as a Ruck to take over Gawn’s reins in a few years.

On 9/27/2020 at 8:52 PM, DeeSpencer said: 6 years on AFL lists for 18 games. Has struggled to get fit. Has battled with injuries. There's very little evidence that he's ready to be a starting ruckman. Apart from GWS those other clubs you named have much more reliable options and don't need to desperately gamble on Preuss. There's no way that 2 years of doing stuff all at Melbourne has suddenly increased his value. Xman97 = 1 DeeSpencer = 0

Add in 2 to 4 free agent compo picks and our Pick 23 will more likely be 29 or 30 ?

Yeh agree, I think the non negotiable is a Winger and a Key Forward which we’d be able to fit in with not too much issue in terms of salary cap. If we go for 5 or 6 A and B graders, we’re looking at making some hard calls on players to free up some space.

Not really tying it to anything, nor do I think we should do too many changes like the Saints did last year. I’ve just had a bit of a look through some data this afternoon which got me thinking, do we go hard at the trade table or do just a couple of trades. I’ve always been a believer in stability, with not more than say 7 changes a year. Team chemistry and mastering a game plan takes time together. But what the Saints did last year makes me want to go hard. What’s your thoughts mate?

About these graphs: List continuity is the percentage of time on ground by players on the list in the previous season. Historical average shown on the blue dashed line. I’ve posted the 2 teams (Port & Stk) who have gone to the next level this year. Could we try to simulate in some regard or do you think it’s more coincidental than anything? Keep in mind, this is not just new players at the club, this is combined with existing players coming into the best 22.

Yeh, interesting. So hit out rate to advantage is the same. Preuss spends more time forward than Gawn it seems. I have a feeling Preussy boy might have a few suitors. Ruck Contests: Gawn 2020: 57.9 Gawn 2019: 68.2 Preuss 2020: 33.7 Preuss 2019: 31.9

Interesting tweet by Fantasy Freako: Hitout-to-advantage rates in the past two seasons: Gawn 34.0% Preuss 34.0% Ranks =2nd in the AFL behind Andrew Phillips (34.6%).

Agree with having a mid being more accountable on a particular player, and not a hard tag. But neither the Bont tag or the T.Kelly tag was a hard one or even for a big portion of the game! Geary is a different story, as it was a forward tag. We're talking about Harmes going into the midfield and taking one of our guns out. I would have Viney or Brayshaw be that player instead of Harmes. Both of those guys do pay close attention already is some games. Harmes is a whole lot better than those 2 in playing half forward or half back, so on team balance, I don't like the Harmes idea. Also, I wouldn't be taking Oliver or Petracca out so Harmes can tag all day like some of the comments by others suggests.

Your post was bagging Goodwin for not doing it, and saying its not rocket science! You can have your opinion, but don't bag another human because he's not doing what you want him to do. Most clubs aren't doing it much for a reason. Tagging someone usually means that tagger is at every centre bounce with the opposition player. In doing this, takes out 1 of only 3 positions at every centre bounce. When we have 4 inside mid guns of the comp (Petracca, Oliver, Viney & Brayshaw), and struggle to find room for all 4, I don't understand why you would want to make it 5! Add in Vandenberg who I think is a better inside mid than Harmes, and you have 6.

Hard tag?? Hahahaha! I can definitely tell who knows their footy on this forum with just 1 post. He gave him a hard tag for 1 quarter and this is how you defend that tagging isn't is going out of fashion! So many dumb posts on here! Opinion is opinion. If you don't like tagging, then fair enough. But don't give me examples that are false and misleading to others that are reading.

Did you watch any other Collingwood games this year mate? Tell me how many other times did they tag? And tell me, are we talking about Harmes just tagging for finals are we? You’re not comparing apples to apples. WC 15 - Coll 8 in centre clearences last night proves that maybe backing in your own elite mids (which collingwood have) is the way to go.

I could of directed to a couple more also. I just wanted to correct you on Goodwin being the only coach who doesn’t tag. GWS even eased off the Deboer tag in the last few rounds. It’s out of date.

1- Hardly anyone tags anymore, except for GWS. And look how they went this year. 2- Why not back your midfield in when you have one of the best midfields in the game? I can understand if you have one of the worst midfields. Do you not think GWS would do better by having one of their many guns rotate through instead of consuming 1 spot in almost every centre bounce with Deboer! 3- Harmes would be our 5th or 6th best inside mid, so with 3 spots in the centre at a time, why would you take one of our guns out. 4- Out of our top 6 inside mids, Harmes is the most flexible to play other positions other than Petracca and Vandenberg. Petracca (inside mid/fwd), Oliver (inside mid only), Viney (inside mid only - don’t tell me he should be played in the pocket. Wallis has done it, but he couldn’t get a game in their midfield and isn’t half the midfielder Viney is), Brayshaw (inside mid only), Vandenberg (Inside/outside/fwd) & Harmes(inside/half fwd/half/back). Tagging is outdated, and it’s boring to watch stars of the game getting tagged out of it.

I can't find the data for 2020 or 2019, but in 2018 there was 101 players in the AFL paid more than $600,000. Considering the TPP increases every year, in 2020 it would be about 110 players. You cannot sit here and say Viney isn't in the top 110 players in the AFL.

Here's a copy & paste from the CBA on the TPP. Schedule B – Total Player Payments and Benefits 1. Total Player Payments The Total Player Payments for each AFL Club will be as follows: Year 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 TPP Limit 12,445,028 12,594,368 12,758,095 13,013,257 13,273,522 13,538,993

I would of tried Salem on the wing personally but I do think he’s too slow. I.Smith hasn’t really lost any pace or lost his elite kicking. He probably hasn’t stood out that much due to Hawthorns decline the past 2 years, but I’d get him in a heart beat. Won’t cost us a trade, he’s got finals experience, good leader, elite skills, elite running, would increase out efficiency inside 50. All of which we need. If he’s only at the club for 2 years, who gives a rats. We need to get better as a club and play finals consistanty year after year, and ultimately win grand finals. He will help us do these things. Stuff the logic that we’re not in the premiership window. We’ll challange if we tidy up a few areas and recruit for needs. We’re not as far off as some people think.

I personally can’t see North or Adelaide trade for it either, but they could gamble on us finishing bottom 4 or 6 which would mean they win the trade. They also will have a medium to long term strategy which might be to have their top draft picks spread out over a period of time, simular to how the Giants went about it in their 1st few years. They both have the 1st 2 picks in the draft as well as the picks we’d be chasing (8 and 9). If we on trade our Pick 23 (which will slide to about 28 to 30) with our future 1st, that might tempt them. I’d much rather fill our squad with top liners these days as we need elite skill which most of the time only comes in the top 10 or 15 picks.

Yeh, you can swap 2 1st rounders in a row. All you need is to use 2 1st round picks in a 4 year period. That is definately another con, with this draft being a bit unknown, especially with the Victorian kids. Every recruiter I’ve listen to though has said the top 20 or 30 you can’t really go wrong as they follow these kids for a few years (especially from U16’s) before their draft year. I just really like the idea of getting the player now, rather than in 12 months time. Especially if there’s types that fit our needs like Macrae and Key Position players. The problem with trading for the Bulldogs pick would be it will fall to about Pick 16 to 18, and that’s not what we should be trading for IMO. Also, if they trade out of this years 1st round for a 1st rounder next year, they’ll almost definately fall into points defecit next year and their 1st pick will fall several spots, so I’m not sure if they’ll be keen. The Dogs will most likely trade with a team that can give them points this year.