dazzledavey36

No I never said that? You've certainly missed my point. With Oliver missing, what this has created which we haven't been able to do for a long time due to Oliver's durability, is that we've had to look at other avenues to cover his loss which I think we've done successfully in my opinion. Guys like Sparrow, Jordon, Rivers and Brayshaw have had to step up and take on extra responsibilities and if you want proof that they've done a tremendous job then as I have already stated, we've beaten every team in clearences bar the Freo game where that was the start of Oliver missing through injury. So I have no idea where you gotten this whole ''we've dropped our numbers in clearences right back"' when it's actually the complete opposite and false. The other point I was also trying to make was that it shows we can adapt and not fully rely on one player to carry us. We're unpredictable with our stoppage set up and I think that's a positive in itself. Oliver coming back will be significant for us towards finals, it's the cherry on top. But it also means we don't have to completely throw him straight into the engine room and rely on him to carry the midfield brunt. Ease him back and get him cherry ripe for September.

If anything our clearence game has gotten a lot better since Oliver did his hammy. We were losing the clearence battle in the first half of the year. Remember Brisbane? Since Oliver went down, starting from the Fremantle match, we've won the clearence game against teams 7-1 with the only game where we were beaten in all 3 facets was against freo. Since then we've beaten all remaining teams in stoppages, centre clearence and general clearences. Great effort without Oliver. Just shows when we are unpredictable with our set up we can certainly overcome teams with our clearence game. Oliver will be a welcome return, but we're doing just fine without him.

Reported in the Age that we've moved on from Henry after signing Chandler up. Never mind, TU provided the link.

Pretty sure I've read that we've ruled him out now.

An interesting stat. No team that has finished 4th since 2000 has won a premiership...

Wrong thread.

Come to us pick 4..

Yes agree, the personal jabs was unnecessary. He's a premiership hero in my eyes so he's got enough respect for me. I'll be honest and I think I could upset a few here, but I'm starting to think even his own teammates don't trust him on field. Unfortunately, this is a real thing in footy clubs. His body is slowly letting him down and when you're getting beaten easily one on ones then that starts to play on your mind as a teammate so then find yourself assessing other options. I saw this last week and yesterday as well. It was glaring to say. There's been moments where he's lead into space and they've totally ignored him by either going the difficult option or just playing the percentage. Goodwins comments post game pretty much confirms that he wasn't overly impressed with Browns game and I think we'll see him getting dropped.

Yeah I understand. I don't mind some footy shows only because I like to get a different perspective on thr club instead of just having my rosy red and blue glasses on. Some shows and media outlets provide some really valuable stats which I find really insightful.

Never said that. Just said "Oh dear John."

But I think you do care? It obviously gets to you slightly because you and few other still have reacting to those comments on this thread. I hear the comments as well but I brush it off because at the end of the day they're paid to give opinions and whether they're right or wrong, its the results that will speak for themselves.

Jaded, in fairness, if his body is completely banged up and is bone on bone then he simply shouldn't be playing at AFL level. I'm a big Benny Brown fan more then anyone but he was pretty woeful yesterday. He was easily beaten one on one by Jordan Butts and Nick Murray who are inexperienced defenders. To put it kindly it wasn't pretty too watch, and for a guy so big he was easily ragdolled. Goody speaks about being ruthless in the contest and I saw zero of that. Whilst you say there are no other options available, I'll argue that we have Petty (yes I know he was out injured) who's proven the forward experiment can work, Grundy and even Schache who is fit and would have provided better output then Brown yesterday. I personally like to see Petty take his spot. He's physically better in one on ones and not someone that gets pushed off so easily. We have 7 weeks to get this right, why not give Petty a go.

Honestly surprised reading the comments on here by majority of supporters who not only think we get hard done by in the media, but easily so sucked in as well lol..

Oh dear John

Made my week. Well done choco

Geez we've been bad with our kick outs.

Getting shown up big time

Means nothing if you're fighting back and not getting the results. Pies on the other hand simply get the results.

Nah

And then dropped a sitter inside 50 from a JHF pass with a minute to go.

This is a huge loss for the Lions. He's averaging 22 disposals and 5 score involvements this year for a first year kid which is super impressive. He's all class and suddenly Brisbane will now have depth issues with filling his spot.

Dees by 28.