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6- McDonald 5 - Sylvia 4 - Morton 3 - Warnock 2- Miller 1 - Buckley

Bartram - devoid of skill Bate - not on field Bell - not on field Bruce- little to enthuse Buckley - good first half Dunn - not on field Garland - just a spectator Green - missing when needed Jamar - murdered in ruck Jones - a poor game McDonald - our only trier Martin - looked totally lost Miller - very limited involvement Morton - classy but flawed Newton - a schoolboy's performance Sylvia - tried all day Warnock - tried but limited Wheatley - loose and ineffective Whelan - game to forget White - lost Carlton's interest Yze - a farewell nightmare Wonaeamirri - continued poor month

Let's hope Richmond is still in the running for the final 8 when we play them in the final round so we can lose 'gracefully'.

Bartram - good defensive run Bate - little to commend Bell - aggressive but flawed Bruce - plenty of possessions Buckley - better disposal today Frawley - an encouraging display Green - year's best game Jamar - made few mistakes P.Johnson - excellent despite restriction Jones - mostly well held McDonald - fine captain's game Maric - was disappointing today Martin - occasionally a spectator Miller - good not great Morton - effective and prolific Newton - brief cameo involvement Sylvia - exciting and frustrating Warnock - some defensive run Wheatley - prolific and reliable Whelan - tackling to behold Valenti - just a game Wonaeamirri - little when needed

6- Bruce 5- McDonald 4 -Maric 3- Valenti 2- Whelan 1 - P. Johnson

Bartram - loose and reckless Bate - abysmal forward pressure Bruce - our only winner Buckley - tried but failed Carroll - justified his return Dunn - still learning role Frawley - little to commend Green - just a game C.Johnson - not as prolific P.Johnson - effective but limited Jones - very little impact McDonald - battled overwhelming odds Maric - exciting and talented Martin - out of depth Morton - poor when pressured Sylvia - tried but limited Warnock - tried but failed Wheatley - disposal was disappointing Whelan - reliable as expected White - age has wearied Valenti - burrowed and persevered Wonaeamirri - a poor game

and Morton's 20 metre handball that gets penalised as dropping the ball .

6 - Sylvia 5 - Bate 4 - Morton 3 - Jamar 2 - Dunn 1 - McDonald

Bartram - brave but erratic Bate - constantly provided target Bell - aggressive but flawed Bruce - plenty of possessions Buckley - tried but mistakeridden Davey - insignificant until injured Dunn - fine tagging game Garland - overly difficult assignment Green - just a game Jamar - outstanding in tapouts C. Johnson- not as effective P. Johnson - enjoyed his efforts McDonald - gave constant drive Maric - promising but tiny Martin - occasionally a spectator Morton - elusive and effective Sylvia - season's best game Warnock - found opponent intimidating wheatley - lacked customary run Whelan - played as expected Valenti - continues to impress Wonaeamirri - a poor game

Obviously the club can't either

Newton will certainly be a valuable player for us for many years IMO . He has had a poor year because of injury and suspension - obviously being unable therefore to gain momentum . There are , however ,giant upsides to the guy who is extremely young and inexperienced in football terms . He is very tall and extremely agile for his size; very smart ( albeit lazy ) on the field ; a huge , and usually accurate kick ;and with a body that is ripe for developing over the summer . You don't give up on players of his size when there is so much to gain with patience !

Greg Healy - same build , same bullocking attack , and very similar kicking style .

The fact that Green wasn't voted into the leadership group this season by his peers suggests all may not necessarily be well amongst the players if he is made skipper.

Bartram - tried but failed Bate - disappeared when needed Bell - comprehensively poor game Bruce - year's worst game Buckley - thrilling first half Davey - missing too often Dunn - was rarely sighted Garland - very quiet game Jamar - little to enthuse C.Johnson - continued his renaissance P.Johnson -easily our best Jones - a better game McDonald - rusty but valuable Maric - commendable first effort Martin - was rarely noticed Miller - good first half Morton - some classy touches Newton - freakish but flawed Sylvia - worked into game Warnock - a poor game Whelan - tough and uncompromising Valenti - enjoyed his game

Hey Twerp ,just read my first thread !

Thank you to all those who have made disparraging remarks about me and this thread . How about you all read the opening lines of my opening comment before you all jump to the defence of poor young Cale ? IN case you missed it I will go over my points carefully . JOEBOY NOTES THAT MORTON IS YOUNG , SKILLED AND HAS PLENTY OF UPSIDE TO HIM . . NOTE - No mention is ever made of him being a crap player !!!!! Joeboy sees Morton's brother [censored] himself and fumble and turn over the ball for Hawthorn every time a StKilda player puts pressure on him . The next day Joeboy sees Cale do the exact same thing after quarter time against the Fockers when the pressure was exerted . Joboy reports that he is dismayed to think that there is a propensity for the Morton brothers to [censored] themselves and turnover the ball when confronted by opposition pressure . Goodbye that is all .

So what's this guy's name ? BTW just read my first thread and don't get carried away with your vitriol .

Well now that you've given us this gem my fears are allayed .

Yes but did anyone see him do anything positive after quarter time when the pressure was on ?

I'm not talking about ability - Cale possesses it ; I'm talking about coping with pressure .

My point is that fumbling the football under pressure is genetic . People respond differently to pressure , and perhaps the Mortons don't have a genetic propensity to coping well with it .

Yes I know he's young ; yes I know he's inexperienced ; yes I know there's lots of upside to the guy . BUT- If you watched the Hawks succumb to the pressure exerted by the Saints last night ,you may have noticed Cale's brother continually fumble , stutter , and turn over the ball when the heat was applied. My concern now is that it may be a genetic thing because Cale regularly turned it over and missed his targets too when the pressure ultimately came after quarter time .

Bartram - missed the flight Bate - was barely noticed Bell - stranded at Tulla Bruce - was rarely sighted Buckley - exciting but reckless Davey - a poor game Dunn - was rarely sighted Garland - not an influence Jamar - was rarely sighted C. Johnson - not the worst P. Johnson - little to enthuse Jones - a poor game Martin - played a part Miller - our best player Morton - poor under pressure Newton - 5 minute performance Sylvia - junk time possessions Warnock - missed the plane Wheatley - not as impressive Whelan - loose and inefficient Valenti - gave some drive Wonaeamirri- not on ground

Yes WJ I certainly agree on Rich being the standout , with Zaharakis being a major talent. Natanui must be regarded as a player with serious deficiencies with a fundamental inability to read the play ,whilst having a super leap is not necessarily an advantage in the ruck any more - just ask Jeff White .

Bartram - never stopped trying Bate - little too late Bell - just a game Bruce - tried to lead Buckley - skills were suspect Dunn - continued his renaissance Garland - not as effective Green - plenty of endeavour Jamar - tried but ineffective C. Johnson - another good performance P. Johnson - just a game Jones - needs a rest Martin - comfortable in defence Miller - little too late Morton - impressive in bursts Newton - provided a target Sylvia - a poor game Warnock - was rarely noticed Wheatley - not as influential Whelan - not his best Valenti - no major strength Wonaeamirri - exciting too infrequently