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Correct. McNamee wanted Nic as he thought he would generate more excitement, crowds:supporters, advertising. But he had no say and was on the nose with Jimmy. And left the club as a result.

Well said.

True Sir, I guess some of us are in the last Q and need to see success replace failure.

With respect Dr, we understand it and recognise, but regurgitating the same issues over 40 or 50 years does not reveal the universal truth. How many times do you need to write and read about the same issues. All we do is reinforce the negativity surrounding the club. We all recognise the issues and our lack of success, but it does not result in success on the field. The club has been trying to achieve success for a long time. Our efforts from the time that PJ and Roos came aboard have been designed to do this. Our financial position has improved and our administration has been stable. We have many capable people on board. But it’s tough with not much leeway between success and failure. We are no longer getting slaughtered by huge margins. So we have improved over recent years. But the competition is fierce and clearly we have gaps in our playing list. Our skills have not been up to standard and we don’t have many A graders. In addition the jury is still out on our head coach and his game plan. But let’s talk about the present and future not the past.

Just call me Ernie.

Not sure why supporters want to wallow in the mire by constantly revisiting the past. Very depressing. It is what it is. The past gets revisited all the time and despite folks best and worst efforts there is never any clarity and indeed there will never be an answer. The reasons for our lack of success has been rehashed hundreds of times. It is just a game and for many during this pandemic it suddenly seems less important than life itself.

All good comments. What we do know is that no team can afford to a big slow ruckman with limited skills and mobility. As stated by “collar” if you have two high quality ruckman who can also play a key position, it’s a different matter. That’s the beauty of having Jackson.

Very sad for Laidley and his family. A good footballer and coach. Many ex footballers fall short on the moral rectitude stakes. Pretty much a reflection on the vicissitudes of humankind. He should receive some sympathy and compassion. Again highlights the importance of good mental health and the struggle that we all experience in maintaining the appropriate balance in our life. We all need to be able to repress some of our thoughts and behaviours. It is just another example of the dangers of social media and the communication of material of a personal nature.

Great memory Tim. Paul had a lot going for him until his injury. He and Dallas were East Bentleigh boys from memory.

A sniper is far too polite.

There is a lot of help available these days, however, for the sufferer the biggest challenge is to find the right person. That person may be a coach, mentor, GP, friend, psychiatrist, psychologist etc. Anyone with the right skill set, personal and/or professional. That person needs to have personal attributes that include listening skills, empathy, life experience, care, patience and a genuine desire to help the sufferer that is not influenced by ego or money. The sufferer needs to feel that they gave a trusted person in their corner that will maintain privacy and discretion. It may be a combination of these people. Serious mental health problems may require medication and techniques used by a psychiatrist or psychologist assisted by an experienced GP or mentor. I would always be cautious about seeking help from someone within a club or organisation. In my experience, these people may not be the best available or best suit the sufferer. Often there is a conflict of interest. There are a lot of helpers out there, professional or otherwise The challenge is finding the right one.

The clubs greatest asset.

Elite ? Hate the word. Before the word was coined along with derogatory words such as spud and dud, at a time when players had jobs and the media reported on players and games without sensationalism, ego or headline grabbing, and supporters were loyal to their players and team, irrespective of their position on the ladder, a different language was used. Players were not duds or spuds, they were “not up to it” or “good seconds” (reserve) players. Some players were described as “good” or “solid” players, some were “very good” players even “great” players, and the exceptional few were crowned with the word “Star” or “Champion.” Players in our great teams of the 50s and 60s could be described this way. Our champion was RDB. The rest were great players, very good players or good players. The rest played in the seconds or were dispatched to country and local leagues. You would not have described these players as elite, duds or spuds. Anyway, getting back to my point I hate the word “elite”, It has become a buzz word that suggests that the author or speaker knows what they are talking about. Yes, everyone in the dog eat dog industry use it. That does not mean everyone else has to slavishly use it. Oops looks like I have finished the bottle. Now where did I put that single malt? .

A good list. For mine hard to go past Johnson, Viney and S. Febey for consistency.

Big Carl was very protective of the little fella. Not sure it stacks up to scrutiny but he appeared to be one of the smallest guys ever to play the game. Not the fastest or most skilled player going around but courage and tenacity in spades. When he was over the footy and it was in his hands it was hard to prise the thing out of his iron grip. At the time was sorry to see him go to the Saints.

Ozzie was a turnover king. Would have been a perfect fit today!! Showed early promise but lacked skill and composure. Could be a long field kick but inaccurate particularly kicking for goal. Ran in straight lines and a fumbler. But a good honest trier. Tried at centre half forward, flank and defence but never settled into a position.

A terrific player whose career was hampered by injury. A dasher off the half back flank but could play tall. Guts and determination. Great to watch in his prime until injury slowed him down.

Showed promise early on, similar to Lloyd Burgmann. Like so many, able to do some good things but played in a terrible team. The young guys were sacrificed on the altar of mediocrity. So many were Coodabeens.

And thank Christ for that Moon. Even embraced by ScoMo and his mates. Even The Donald. Not a peep from the usual media bottom lickers. Funny how we have half the population who now think that welfare is well.....fair, now they are in the queue or may be. Suddenly free trade can be seen for what it is and protectionism does not look so bad. Economic growth is one thing but humanity is another. If we do not have a society that cares for one another, we do not have a society. Great to hear the AFL and clubs talking as one and supporting the unchanged state of the Clubs.

Ken Jungwirth. Elusive type but could not crack the big time.

Derek Feldmann brother of Rick. Like his brother never kicked on but a solid defender in the dark days of the late 60s.

Pineapple, I think you getting confused between philanthropy and charity.

Jeff Chapman, a schoolboy star for Carey Grammar. He played first 2 games in 66 as full forward after starring in preseason. Kicked 8 goals in a club practice match on Tassie Johnson. Touted as our new Ron Barassi, due to his guts and determination. Alas he only played the 2 matches. Too slow, poor skills and lacked height and spring. Played on Bob Murray of St Kilda and was given a bath. Played out the season in the 2s and was cleared to Hawthorn but never played a game. Given the hype before the season he was one of the biggest flops of all time. His post footy life was the exact opposite. A highly successful investment manager, owned his own private family company, and a huge philanthropist. Five years ago his wealth was valued at 800 mill.

Perhaps, seems to run in the family. I must admit that in urban environments I always travel with a roll of toilet paper given the unsanitary nature of public toilets. Also to prevent arrest from the constabulary. They need greater ethnicity in the ranks of those in blue. We are in times of change Uncle and our behaviours must change. That includes your local massage joint and even chores and rituals in the Manor. Have you had to stand down the maid or does she have something to fall back on?

The theory is that everyone should feel the pain equally but of course this will never be the case. Alan Joyce from Qantas can give up his salary but he is already a very wealthy man. My experience is that many people with a lot of money are very careful with their spending. They also are on the ones who have a wide range of investments such as property. They are more likely to borrow and borrow large sums. Yet they want to protect their assets and only sell or dispose at a time of their choosing. Money makes money. They have more to gain but also more to lose.