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re didnt retire til the end of the '99 season, he was born september '67 so he wouldve been 31 during that season. but in '99 he only played 2 games, '97 5 games and '96 6 games (21 games in '98), so at the end of the 95 season (effectively his last cept the comeback year) he was 28 it would have been interesting to see the development of the mfc if he was fit those years. would he have been playing in the 2000 GF? would we have made it? would neitz stayed at CHB?

lower back tightness worries me. that could be heaps of things and there could be no way to fix it...unless they know whats causing it it is a problem...

sorry my mistake, i assumed it had to be deliberate out of bounds. how can they possibly pay a free kick for not gibing the ball back to the umpire? players throw it away all the time...tiem off is called when the ball is called out of bounds so it cant be time wasting...that is the perfect example of an umpiring enjoying his control over the game too much. it was clearly done out of frustration, not in an attempt to slow the game down and it didnt make that much difference to anything. what a joke.

with all due respect id be worried if any player was a poor uncontested mark. and his kicking for goal is woeful (in 84 games he has kicked 31 goals 23 behinds (57% accuracy, well down on the league average)), he struggles to kick over 40 metres. .

yes it does. you cannot post something on you tube you dont own the copyright too...all the family guy episodes are in 5 minute blocks because you tube made a limit on the length of the file you can upload to stop people putting full shows up.

fwiw that is why i asked if he played his usual role or not. i would be astounded if he ever kicked 6 goals playing how he and where he does for mfc. i have said the same things a number of times regarding playing at FF. i think he looks better when he is played closer to goal. evidence of this: when neitz and robbo were out who looked more comfortable and played some of his best footy for the club? add these two back into the side and you force miller further away from goals. this exposes his weaknesses, he cant kick long and he tries to handball off too much. i thought bate played the role miller usually plays this week but he didnt handball as much. i think millers poor kicking has killed his confidence. when he is closer to goal he will actually play not unlike neita and i reckon he is a chance there in the long term. from all reports newton is more a CHF and bate can easily be played in the midfield so we will need a FF replacement.

Nicknames here it is...

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looked like a good strong mark until you watch the replay closely and see it touched carrols arm first...

must be dissapointing for bartram. if those three are struggling id like to see them told to just take 10 weeks off and do preseason with us, get themselves right first. we need them on the park next year, fit and firing, all 3 get in our best 22, prob 18. RE yze jaded, when he missed the first game he had scans for OP (which i found strange considering it is occuring at this stage of his career, maybe he caught it from moloney?) they said the scans came back showing it wasnt bad at all, but they didnt say it wasnt OP. mild OP is a pain in the ass. i get the feeling yze might have played if daveys knee didnt get up but he was otherwise going to drop out...

you are fast becoming the poster whose posts i dont bother to read. start thinking about your posts before you type them. also start opening your eyes to what is going on on the field. you have passion and loyalty to our players but that doesnt mean the players are perfect or that we cant have discussions about the negative side of things. bruce's kicking is poor. there is no question about that. everyone agrees that he is struggling. your arguments are ignorant and immature. please do us a favour. its not about how many times you can post on here, people only care if its interesting, and at the moment you certainly aren't. this isnt a 'boost the players morale' board. this isnt australian idol and you arent marcia hines; we are allowed to criticise and discuss.

for mine its PJ or Bell. you can make a case for either...

so we finally get our best players back from injury and start playing well enough to knock off sides that are challanging for the top 4 and you this this as further proof that we need to sack the coach? doesnt the fact that we are actually a much better side that we have been showing (once we've got our players back) show you that the coach has been doing everything he could with the cattle he had available?

I think that the 50 against McLean was unwarrented. He clearly was not to know that it was paid as deliberate, he obviously thought it was out of bounds. Poor decision in my book.

bizz did well today. i thought a couple of his kicks didnt hit targets but im not complaining, however im still unsure if there is a spot for him and rivers in the same team. if they do play in the same team i think frawley will have to miss out and personally id rather see frawley getting a go.

i just cant believe what a bunch of ignorant scum they are. a push in the back is a push in the back is a push in the back. the rule now is black and white (no pun intended). hands cannot go on the opposition players back. it is a terrible rule and i dont agree with it. but how stupid is rocca? the only one they missed all day was the one that should have been against robbo. thats 1 goal. they kicked 3 from free kicks. im not sure why they are whinging about the deliberate decisions. the first one was kicked along the boundary with no filth players in site, the aim was to kick it out of bounds. and the second went straight at the boundary even more deliberate. i couldnt believe the one they paid against holland/brock tho because he ran to it and only missed it by half a metre. and that 50 m penalty was a joke. i hate them more than ever after listening to them carry on all day and after hearing about joffas banner. what a waste of money d#$head

with all due respect to soccer, and soccer fans in general, that board reminds me of the collingwood boards...

dsont forget he was on roids for his CFS...

i dont think its a massive problem but honestly, if their are two games in one week, why not just reverse those games so that all teams are playing sides with equal break? ie split round week 1 a v b c v d split round week 2 e v f all other teams etc next round a v d c v b all other teams that way there is no problems at all...is it that hard to work out a fixture that is fair?

agree entirely, he needs to do it more than once for me... for those who saw him play on monday, what position did he play? did he play the same role he plays for mfc, leading out from CHF and marking 60 out? did he handball much or choose to kick it? or did he play closer to goal where he could use his strengthto mark and when he led he was close enough to kick goals. we all know miller cant kick long. i think he is a much better player when deep inside 50 as he can use his skills to kick goals instead of give off handballs...

FB Wheelan ... brown HB CJ Holland Warnock C ... ... ... HF Pickett Newton Dunn F Miller ... ... R ... ... ... Apart from newton they have all player a few games for the dees this year...add neaves, buckly and garland to that mix and it looks like a melbourne side...the back line looks like it will be pretty good... can you bet on sandy games?

thanks mate first credit ive had on this thread lol i agree about our ruckls but the way i see it is we dont have much choice atm. we try and trade for a ruck to join white and PJ, we promote neaves and hope he makes it, or we draft a ruck (either a ready made with an early pick, or an outside chance rookie). perhaps we scour the state leagues for a ready made ruckman and convince him to nominate... but it is interesting to read articles like the one the other day that said hit outs dont correspond to wins. it is definetly about how good your midfield is, especially if your ruck can at least make a contest. PJ is making a decent contest this year, and i hope he improves. you make good points about our key forwards. we could really go either way with that. newton, bate, dunn, robbo, miller could all play tall forwards or we could be left with robbo and dunn occasionally. atm i think newton will work out but it will take time. drafting a genuine tall strong forward (in the reiwolt or pavlich mould) would solve all our problems for 10 years if you had to draft tomoz would you favour rucks, tall forwards, or midfielders more? or try and get one of each? i think my first pick would be the strong CHF if we could get one as good as the above mentioned. then i think it would be ruck (if the ruck was good enough to make an immediate impact) otherwise midfield. i think id try and trade for ruck or rookie another. fwiw if we trade for judd we lose our best chance at securing one of these types of players. those who say yes trade judd for picks and a player, are you suggesting that a midfielder is more important to us right now than any of these other positions?

making a banner that he wont get to put up tomoz. you can bet we'll be over on the collingwood forums when we have a win

sorry i think ive maybe used the wrong words here. im not saying we have superstars in waiting ready to step up in these other positions but there are payers from whom these positions are their first. in the midfield, you can name this group of players, but mclean, moloney, pettered, jones, johnstone, godfrey, mcdonald and pickett are the midfielders in that list. sylvia, bate, dunn and davey are forwards. yes i know bate has played a lot of his footy on the ball, but he wont be a full time mid. and yes i know sylvia could be a full time mid, but i'd like to see him get over his op first... bartram, bell, CJ, wheatley and frawley are defenders, not mids. yes they could run around, but that doesnt seem to be their natural position. i just thought it interesting that apart from godfrey we dont have any true midfielders not in our best 22 (with the exception of players who havnt played ie buckley). do adelaide have this problem?

yes bruce, green etc arent named in the centre but they normally rotate through the centre. take a couple of players out and we lose that rotation. playing bartram in the centre is robbing peter to pay paul. we dont really have any other mids who arent in our starting team.