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Yep. Without getting into a discussion of that, the difference here is that we are doing it at stoppages, which is causing our problems.

Right now the symptoms are we're losing the clearances, and getting smashed in uncontested possessions. I think the main problem is we are all going for the hardball instead of trusting our team mates and staying outside to recieve and defend. We are not able to get clean first possession because we are congested and then have no one else to give it too outside. Then if they get it, we're are all caught inside allowing them to get low pressure uncontested possessions as they make space. On top of that we're aren't making position when transitioning from defence unless it's a fast break. The poor kicks have largely been the result of poor options.

That's why frost wasn't getting games.

Tyson plays inside mid. JKH plays HFF/Wing/mid etc.. Nothing to do with pecking order and all to do with suitable positions.

JKH is an interesting inclusion in that he could look amazing compared to earlier games, but that could be due to both his improvement and the teams improvement. Our ability to win clearances will mean he doesn't have to win his own all day. He can use his tank to get in good positions and also add defensive cover for us, a bit like a better skilled ANB. As long as he gets to positions all day and doesn't let his opponent run off him, he could complement the current team well.

The definition of pressure acts, And the points awarded for each act: "Points are awarded for corralling (1.2), chasing (1.5), closing (2.75) and physical pressure (3.75)" I'm not saying he is a superstar, but I do think the areas we struggle with as a team including running hard both ways and chasing our opponents defensively. ANB gives us both of those things. I know he lacks in other areas. But while we struggle for 2 way running, it seems unlikely we'd drop a bloke who runs further and harder than anyone else, and applies a constant stream of defensive pressure to his opponents. I definitely don't think we'll drop him for a player who only runs forwards, like Kent. Due to his defensive pressure and tackling, I think AVB is a player who could push for ANBs role (if he gets his tank up).

That's not true. The only time you can't sheppard is when contesting a mark or the ruck.

You got most. It is pressure acts. I was trying to illustrate ANBs worth without possessions. He runs hard both ways, and this places defensive pressure on the opponents. He does this better than anyone and it is our weakness. I know he fluffs shots at goal but his defensive running is underrated around here.

I watched us smash Adelaide and nearly beat Geelong. And they are 2 of the 3 sides you mentioned!

You specifically said you wanted to increase our spread and then said you would drop ANB and pick Kent. ANB is the hardest worker in the side, who runs all day to be in the correct position. Did you watch the footage from 360 last week where it showed our players not chasing down the ground? It isn't about run down tackles, its about manning up in the first place so your player isn't loose. ANB does this as well as anyone and its our major weakness. Kent on the other hand runs one way only. Who cares how many goals he kicks when your stated aim is to improve our spread? Or are you just saying buzzwords and picking the players you personally like??

Inject more spread but you drop our best and hardest distance runner and pick a bloke who only runs one way?

I didn't see all of the game but even if ANB was bad I'd be surprised if he got dropped. His strengths are the teams' weaknesses. He is one of the hardest two way runners, regularly is in the top 5 on the ground for stats like distance covered, average speed in defence, total time at high speed, average speed in defence, etc. He was in those groups today too. He also led the team for pressure acts. All this despite having the least time on ground of any demon. Given we generally suck at running hard after our opponents, he is invaluable. And if he kicked 3.0 instead of 1.2 tonight we'd all be singing his praises.

Is it weaker, or is it just less experienced and still learning a game plan? Their senior coach had been with them for 8 seasons and 180+ games, given them time to learn a system and tweak and improve. They've played finals 4 times in the last 5 season's, meaning they've been well analysed by opposition during that time and have had to keep evolving. On the other hand we are 1.5 years into Goodwin's tenure and the time that we have been worth analysing by the opposition. Before that we had 3years of rebuilding from the foundations. Dont confuse Melbourne in 2013 with any other club in terms of development. When Goodwin took over we were only just AFL standard.

Weather and ground like this, the game could almost have been called off. No benefit and potentially dangerous.

I actually love the umpire teams idea. One of biggest problems is not inconsistency between weeks it's inconsistency between ends. Umpire the games together and then coach and review together. Get the team on the same page. That being said Razor and Pannel are two of the worst in my opinion. With Nichols close to them both.

Its assault and had nothing to do with the football game. It's only purpose was to gain an unfair advantage (cheat): to take out an unsuspecting opponent before the contest. I expect the "grow up outs a contact sport" or "stop being a soft [censored]" response here but this had nothing to do with toughness or physicality in the game of football. Accidental or incidental contact in game should not be punished. I even think they are too harsh on negligent contact when it is part of winning the ball. Punching someone off ball? Never acceptable. Absolutely should be a free kick and a suspension. No one really thinks the $1500 fine is a deterrent do they?

I think the talent pool is there, but because of the reluctance to draft mature age players, and the way the AFL club's use the reserves as development for draftees, the talent doesn't want to play there. The VFL isn't the next best group of players it is full of kids. There are better players in other leagues, who can't get a game at VFL because an 18 year bean pole first year draftee is keeping them out for "development" reasons. The only way I can see this being fixed is to run a separate AFL reserves comp, and increase the list sizes to 55+ (maybe a primary list of 35 for AFL, and a secondary list of 20 for reserves only). When drafting, Club's should be able to place a player on either list (with release clauses after x years for draftees who aren't promoted). Club's should then be able to upgrade off their secondary list for long term injuries, and should have first dibs to automatically elevate any secondary list players before the draft. Basically, by having a smaller primary list you couldn't afford to have lots of undeveloped kids. By having a larger secondary list that was available for upgrade or exclusive draft, out would encourage club's to retain the best tier two talent in the system to fill gaps.

You'll need to give more than that JR. Everything published indicates Goodwin is a big communicator: He doesn't have an office (sits out in the open to make sure he is part of the team and part of the casual chats), he was definitely the "good guy" when Paul Roos was around. It's a big accusation to throw around without putting substance on the table. We also went on to have 2 big wins the next 2 rounds, so it feels unlikely that anything he did had an impact on footy.

The week we beat Carlton by 109 points? He did something to lose the entire playing group?

Too many medium forwards. They spoil KPFs and don't crumb enough

Yeah maybe it's late enough!

Don't go too early...

Another terrible free kick for a goal.

I think the theory in the article that our coaching staff are focused on quality of shots is supported by the "diamond defence" we have deployed at times. The concept of that defence was that we protect the "High percentage" shot area in a zone formation but concede the flanks and pockets, where conversion rate is low. This year we have applied it in reverse: always drop the eyes and look for someone in the hot spot. For anyone concerned about Goodwins coaching, this article should lay those concerns to rest. It shows we are constantly analysis and changing and improving. I agree we need options for when Plan A is countered, and we will learn them with time as we learn the counters. A coach doesn't did this level of analysis and planning and then stop, He constantly tweaks.

I never thought Id say this I hope Essendon beat North this week. It could really help separate the pack sitting 5th to 10th, and a win to us would put is on the right side of that pack.