http://www.melbournefc.com.au/tabid/7415/D...px?newsid=58820

Frawley is extremely quick, has lots of physical development left in his body, knows when to run off his man and has started hitting targets at a good rate. Could be a very good player for us and I like that Bailey isnt afraid to give him big jobs. The kid can handle it.

He was picked 8th in his draft class, so my expectations are high. I think he is a year away but I want to see him get the opportunity to develop. Definetly one I am watching closely.

He was picked 8th in his draft class, so my expectations are high. I think he is a year away but I want to see him get the opportunity to develop. Definetly one I am watching closely.

12th pick.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/tabid/7415/D...px?newsid=58820

Frawley is extremely quick, has lots of physical development left in his body, knows when to run off his man and has started hitting targets at a good rate. Could be a very good player for us and I like that Bailey isnt afraid to give him big jobs. The kid can handle it.

Has to play the rest of the year.

I think he will be alright, if we do the right thing by him and give him a clear run at a position.

He will learn week by week, next year will be his "oh my god how good is this kid" year. He will still show us some good stuff in 2008. 09 is the year of Chip!

ive said this for a long time, but i think frawley will be a gem.

people must be patient with budding key defenders. noone should expect a key defender to be able to consistently beat their player in their first afl season.

what i look for in frawley is his attributes.

He is bloody quick, effective kicking and handballing skills, strong over head, a good spoiler...but most importantly he is 193cm with a frame where he could stack on the kilos after a few preseasons.

some of his spoils this weekend made me happy. some of his driving runs the week before were good. it wont be too long before he puts it all together. we must keep playing him

Agree with what most of whats been said previously in this thread.

The early signs are excellent. Lots of pace, tenacity. With just a touch of polish.

The signs are positive but there will be times where we need to be patient with James.

Think back, if you can, to a time when you were paying in a side, in just about ANY team sport, and you'll realise you learnt the most, in the shortest amount of time when you were easybeats.

The one fantastic factor bout this year is that Frawley couldn't ask for a better learning experience than the one he's having. He's in his second year, and due to our problems, has to stand toe-to-toe with the best or second-best forwards in the game.

Our FF, CHF, and pockets may not be getting fast-tracked the way we'd like, but our most dire need has for a long time been a KP defender, and it's here we're getting the most improvement in the shortest time...

As far as defensive leaders go, you can see him in the leadership group in a few years, and staying there... not the face of the club, and not dominating necessarily, but being our solid tall player in the side.

Go Chip...

And we're going to have to have some patience because the way our midfield and forwards let in the inside 50s, Frawley is going to look like he's drowning at stages this season.

Just one quick thing - I thought it was great when Frawley had a go at his fellow Demons when Bradshaw marked over him after a boundary throw in and no-one came to help him out. Not great that no-one helped but great that a 19 yr old wouldn't shrink to his peers and let them know when they were shirking their duties. A welcome juxtaposition to Al Nicholson, who was better than some give credit for, but who just seemed to mope when things weren't travelling well.

12th pick.

Yes Jerry - thanks for the pick up - still have high expectations on all our first round picks, but he will give us value in time

Gun.

I called it the day he was drafted.

Can shut his man down, and is also attacking.

The next Scarlett.

Think back, if you can, to a time when you were paying in a side, in just about ANY team sport, and you'll realise you learnt the most, in the shortest amount of time when you were easybeats.

I tend to disagree. Football wise I learned the most in my bottom age of under 18s (basically cos I was conceding so much size to everyone else) and we only lost 4 games to the year (all to the same team)

I tend to disagree. Football wise I learned the most in my bottom age of under 18s (basically cos I was conceding so much size to everyone else) and we only lost 4 games to the year (all to the same team)

Your point being?

You learn about your teammates when your team is crap. I think Frawley learnt something when he gave his buddies a spray.....

He is bloody quick, effective kicking and handballing skills, strong over head, a good spoiler...but most importantly he is 193cm with a frame where he could stack on the kilos after a few preseasons.

I concur.

If you bump into Chip, have a look at his frame. He will hold his ground to any forward in a few years time.

2-3 years away from being any good. Thankfully we have no-one keeping him out of the team so he should get some good game time to help fast track him.

As someone has already said, the good thing about Frawley is he has the attributes. I think his kicking is nowhere near as bad as some make it out to be. I like him with the ball in his hands. Has some dash and backs himself. He is seriously fast and something I noticed last year was he was often right with his man on the lead he just struggled to get the spoil in - which is something relatively easy to teach with good coaching, and he did a few very good ones on the weekend. I was quite impressed with him on the weekend.

He also looks to have bulked up over summer (as would be expected for a 2nd year player).

He will be at least a good player for us. I wouldn't go talking Scarlett, but he'll be ok.

Your point being?

That I don't think back to a time when in U16s we got smashed the first few rounds and think I learned the most out of that (other than A divy being a lot higher standard then B)

That I don't think back to a time when in U16s we got smashed the first few rounds and think I learned the most out of that (other than A divy being a lot higher standard then B)

Still don't see how it relates to AFL, Melbourne FC or James Frawley

It was in reply to Dappa Dan (or whoevers) post about you learning the most when you're being absolutely smashed

It was in reply to Dappa Dan (or whoevers) post about you learning the most when you're being absolutely smashed

Yeah, I equate that to people saying it's good luck when a bird shits on you....

Well I spose it's good luck it's not worse luck