i will pay the club for this to happen throw in robbo,wheatley, and white as well

i will pay the club for this to happen throw in robbo,wheatley, and white as well

And Miller

Did anyone hear Grant Thomas on SEN this morning saying he had heard rumours of issues within the side and that Brad Green was thinking of leaving at years end along with Silvia who wanted to go to Adelaide (we can only hope)...both wouldn't be worth more than a 2nd rounder IMO...thoughts?

There is no way in hell Sylvia would want to go to Adelaide. He's dumb, but he's not toally stupid; do you know how hard Neil Craig trains the crows?

Sylvia and Green wanting out (And I don't doubt it) is testimony to their attitude towards a team sport which neither of them will ever exceed at at the highest level.

If they think they will walk into other clubs, they've got tickets on themselves. They are playing for their careers!

I can count on my fingers the number of great games between them.

I just hope someone is stupid enough to give us something (Anything?) for them.

Maybe trade the 2 in the one trade to get a higher pick.

I too will do anything to assist where possible.

Sounds like crap to me. When things go wrong everyone sticks the boots in. It is easy to put the boots in when you are down - and that is what Thomas is doing.

IMO Green is a good footballer and has plenty of experience which we cannot afford to lose at the moment.

Sylvia has been a disappointment to date but he has had a good pre season. I think the team will improve immeasurably when Bate, Dunn, Whelan, Rivers and Moloney have a few games under their belts - and i think then we will see the best of Col and Brock.

I'd treat this with the same contempt I'd treat most of what Thomas says!

His "rumour" probably comes from the newspaper article he read about Green being disappointed about being left out of the leadership group, and Sylvia being disappointed he let himself and teammates down by missing round 1!

For what it's worth, I like both players.......no way in hell I would be letting Sylvia go.....one of the few genuine talents on our list, just has to get his act together, and he eventually will ala Steve Johnson from the Cats.

I like Green too, however if the right deal came along, he is one of those players we may have to make a tough decision on.

I think Sylvia would dominate at another club.

I agree C B, we can't lose him just as he's recovering & growing up.

I agree C B, we can't lose him just as he's recovering & growing up.

I'm not saying that I'm against trading him.

If Sylvia and green are thinking of jumping ship because things are getting hard, that says plenty about their character. To be considered a great player, you need to rise above it and help the club build some forward momentum. If what Grant thomas says is true, you can strip them of their jumpers right now. If you don't bleed red and blue when you are out there as an much loved player for our club, then they can [censored] right off. I like both the guys and think they still have value, but if they want to go all "scott thompson" on us and leave, the door will be open at seasons end.

I have not given up on any of our list just yet, but I sure as hell am asking some questions like everyone else.

Melbourne have a good reputation of getting rid of players which still turnout good footballers, Examples Troy Simmonds would be pretty handy right now, Farmer would be handy in our forward line, Woey, Spalding good enough for a Carlton Premiership side, Brian Wilson,Armstrong, just to name a few.

Melbourne F.C maybe aren't developing there players enough, why give Sylvia away to become a gun at another club. I think we are behind alot of the clubs in this area for the fact we don't have a proper training facility

adelaide wouldn't offer a mars bar for miller.

Melbourne have a good reputation of getting rid of players which still turnout good footballers, Examples Troy Simmonds would be pretty handy right now, Farmer would be handy in our forward line, Woey, Spalding good enough for a Carlton Premiership side, Brian Wilson,Armstrong, just to name a few.

Simmonds is not a star. A good player, but not a star. We got a good deal for him, but sadly used the trade to gain Ellis.

Farmer wanted to go home. We did everything we could to keep him. Same goes for Thompson, who is the only real star we've let go lately.

Armstrong was never a star. As for Woey, his career went down quicker than the Titanic after we traded him. Bell is still developing nicely.

So lets stop with this myth that we've traded away stars. If anything, we haven't traded enough mediocre players and it is now costing us big time. We just don't know when to cut our loses.

I heard the original clip and Thomas said that Sylvia almost went to Adelaide in LAST YEARS trading period.

FWIW I rate Thomas' media work. He doesn't hold back, like many so called experts do.

In an article on the MFC site I read White say there was no fracture in the team, and hadn't been in the time he'd been there. When I read the comment, I didn't know what he was referring to, but perhaps it was this.

If anything, we haven't traded enough mediocre players and it is now costing us big time. We just don't know when to cut our loses.

I wouldn't use the term mediocre, but yes, I agree.

Sylvia and Green wanting out (And I don't doubt it) is testimony to their attitude towards a team sport which neither of them will ever exceed at at the highest level.

If they think they will walk into other clubs, they've got tickets on themselves. They are playing for their careers!

I can count on my fingers the number of great games between them.

I just hope someone is stupid enough to give us something (Anything?) for them.

Green's good enough to play in a premiership team, and would find a spot on another AFL list if he was available.

Sylvia's ridiculously over-hyped on this site. That said, he may turn out to be a good footballer, but could just as easily be a 'coulda-been' - and sooner, rather than later.

I heard the call; it was from some ignoramus that said we should trade Green and let Sylvia go back home to Adelaide. Sylvia hails from Bendigo.

Melbourne have a good reputation of getting rid of players which still turnout good footballers, Examples Troy Simmonds would be pretty handy right now, Farmer would be handy in our forward line, Woey, Spalding good enough for a Carlton Premiership side, Brian Wilson,Armstrong, just to name a few.

Melbourne F.C maybe aren't developing there players enough, why give Sylvia away to become a gun at another club. I think we are behind alot of the clubs in this area for the fact we don't have a proper training facility

People have to start making distictions between players we wanted to keep and players we didn't want to keep when discussing who we have traded. Simmonds requested a trade, Farmer's wife wanted to go home to Perth and he was about to be out of contract. Wilson retired and was talked back into playing by St Kilda; we certainly got the best of him. We traded Spalding because his position was about to be occupied by Schwarta. Armstrong was delisted, a fair enough decision.

One that you haven't mentioned and who always seems to crop up is Scott Thompson; Melbourne were desparate to keep him, he was desparate to go back to South Australia and requested a trade to either Adelaide club. As he was about to be out of contract, we did the best we could.

Did anyone hear Grant Thomas on SEN this morning saying he had heard rumours of issues within the side and that Brad Green was thinking of leaving at years end along with Silvia who wanted to go to Adelaide (we can only hope)...both wouldn't be worth more than a 2nd rounder IMO...thoughts?

Sylvia is not in out best 30. The games I've seen him play at Sandy have been awful. and probably the worst thing he did was at the Dome against the Bulldogs, puncturing Fergies lung and thus ending his career at Melbourne.

As for Green, he picks up his 20odd possession game but doesnt 'hurt' the opposition

Sylvia is not in out best 30. The games I've seen him play at Sandy have been awful. and probably the worst thing he did was at the Dome against the Bulldogs, puncturing Fergies lung and thus ending his career at Melbourne.

As for Green, he picks up his 20odd possession game but doesnt 'hurt' the opposition

Nonsense...in a quality side Green would kick 80 goals in a season and Sylvia is the next Judd.

Any opposition recruiting officers could do worse then trade us Glass, Harley and Johnathan Brown for these two.

Honest Injun

i think that green is a bit of a hog..never handballs and wouldnt mind to see a good draft pick for him

Nonsense...in a quality side Green would kick 80 goals in a season and Sylvia is the next Judd.

Any opposition recruiting officers could do worse then trade us Glass, Harley and Johnathan Brown for these two.

Honest Injun

Can you show me where I can sign off on this ??

Green would probably do much better , yes, with a better feeding system. He needs to work harder and cleverer ( sic ) he needs to step up.. he's coasting.

Ol' Hi-Ho may be yet one of thsoe " had talent ...never applied it " type sceanrios.

id like Col to grow up.. and realis ehis ability..But I shallnt hold breath waiting.. Either he starts stringing together gamesoor id happily trade him...and Green at EOS !!

Potential is one thing...actualisation is another !!

Source: Footy Classified, Grant Thomas

Thoughts?

Garry Lyon smashed it on the head.

Grant Thomas is just [censored] stirring. Why would Sylvia want to go to Adelaide? And even if he did why would it be public knowledge?

is he still on this? he'd bloody well want to start playing better if he wants to get into adelaide

SEE YA!

Source: Footy Classified, Grant Thomas

Thoughts?

I wish it were true, take him off our hands Adelaide, he hasn't shown anything in 4 years due to both injuries but more importantly lack of professionalism. He continues to let us all down and disrespect the club that gave him a shot in the AFL, it's like having a 2 year old with chronic groin injuries on our list. He better do something pretty special soon or he will be traded or delisted at years end.

Source: Footy Classified, Grant Thomas

Thoughts?

People allways say things just like this when their down & frustrated, those type comments are usually shallow & based in hurt & confusion.

If I was in his shoes, I imagine the pressure he feels from peoples comments relating to their disappointment in his efforts over the last couple of seasons must be extremely insulting to a proud athlete like him.

Lets get off his back & give him some support & try to help him along his path of recovery!

He is one of the few who are chasing, tackling hard & winning contested footy for the good of the team!

Their is a lot of wide recievers out there @ the moment going no where near a contest let alone chasing hard or tackling for fa#cs sake. :angry: