I thought he looked really tense all night, and didn't seem to enjoy himself all that much. Even when Bartel won, he wasn't smiling like everyone else ... maybe a bit shirty that he didn't bring home the bacon?

Not at all, at times he was stuffing around with Bartell, but as soon as the camera's came on them they stopped and looked all serious.

He is overrated, and Bartel his mate will go down as a worse Brownlow winner than Woewodin

Maybe dad spiked his drink. I think he was [censored] his pants he might win and have to get up and do a speech it would be very daunting being the hot favourite and No Alcohol wouldn't help on such a big night when everyone around you is wasted and your sober as a judge.

i think that's just the way he is a little too... pretty quiet kinda guy

Gary Ablett seems like just a very unassuming, quiet type of guy who hates the limelight.

he is the best player in the afl imo.

the umpires will ensure an ablett will never win a brownlow. it's a travesty really.

I thought he looked really tense all night, and didn't seem to enjoy himself all that much. Even when Bartel won, he wasn't smiling like everyone else ... maybe a bit shirty that he didn't bring home the bacon?

The Abletts aere very private people wno don't normally like media attention. He lookes like he felt the pressure that comes with favouritism. & he looked naturally dissappointed.

Watch him go now in the GF.

Not at all, at times he was stuffing around with Bartell, but as soon as the camera's came on them they stopped and looked all serious.

There's some great photos of exactly that......

I think that he did feel the weight of expectation and that the media attention doesn't sit particularly well with him.

But as for looking sulky? No. Disappointed? Maybe, but genuinely happy for his team mate.

Watch him go now in the GF.

And maybe a Norm Smith would make up for that disppointment !!!

I thought he looked really tense all night, and didn't seem to enjoy himself all that much. Even when Bartel won, he wasn't smiling like everyone else ... maybe a bit shirty that he didn't bring home the bacon?

I agree. Made pretty much the same comment in another thread.

He is overrated, and Bartel his mate will go down as a worse Brownlow winner than Woewodin

On certain forums you can block a person so you dont have to read the tripe they write, is it possible to do this on demonland?

He is overrated, and Bartel his mate will go down as a worse Brownlow winner than Woewodin

There is no doubt he has had a great year, whether he is overated or not thats yet to be seen. If he backs up this year with a similar one next year then he deserves all the plaudits he gets.

On certain forums you can block a person so you dont have to read the tripe they write, is it possible to do this on demonland?

That be good

On certain forums you can block a person so you dont have to read the tripe they write, is it possible to do this on demonland?

Yes it is.

Go into MY CONTROLS.

Under OPTIONS (left hand side column), select MANAGE IGNORED USERS.

This function is very underrated IMO. If you don't like someone and you put them on your ignore list, it saves a lot of nasty arguments and makes your time on this site more pleasant.

Go nuts!

He is overrated, and Bartel his mate will go down as a worse Brownlow winner than Woewodin

Ridiculous comment. Bartel has been excellent for the three years prior to this one and has made the step up to being a star this year.

A very worthy winner.

Ridiculous comment. Bartel has been excellent for the three years prior to this one and has made the step up to being a star this year.

A very worthy winner.

Woey was a worthy winner as well

he had an awsome 2000 season

What happened after that is another story. Expect the same to happen with Bartel

On certain forums you can block a person so you dont have to read the tripe they write, is it possible to do this on demonland?

Why dont you tell why you disagree with my comments instead of taking the soft option?

Pathetic

Why dont you tell why you disagree with my comments instead of taking the soft option?

Pathetic

Some of your comments YM make me think that sometimes you don't have a clue about footy at all. Im not going to take the soft option but next time think before you speak. A comment such as:

He is overrated, and Bartel his mate will go down as a worse Brownlow winner than Woewodin

that really start to [censored] me off. I mean bartel is a great player and to say that he is overrated really stuns me. So next time if you have a diabolical comment like that keep it to yourself.

that really start to [censored] me off. I mean bartel is a great player and to say that he is overrated really stuns me. So next time if you have a diabolical comment like that keep it to yourself.

I am correct as always

You will see for yourself next season when the slow Bartel is tagged heavily and gets 15 useless touched per game

I am correct as always

You will see for yourself next season when the slow Bartel is tagged heavily and gets 15 useless touched per game

Were you loved as a child?

He is overrated, and Bartel his mate will go down as a worse Brownlow winner than Woewodin

Its official. You are a moron.

Bartel is a tough ball magnet that our on-ballers can only hope to aspire to in hardness.

He kept the cats in the match, 12 possies in the first 1/4 I think, and guess who had the ball in his hands at the bottom of the pack, 50m's out from the Pies goal when the siren went.

No correspondnece will be entered into.

You people have no idea

You are like sheep

You dont have the balls to form your own opinions

Its easy to say what you people are saying. Going along the common theme. When in the end I am the only one who knows what he is talking about.

You should be learning from me, instead of criticising

You people have no idea

You are like sheep

You dont have the balls to form your own opinions

Its easy to say what you people are saying. Going along the common theme. When in the end I am the only one who knows what he is talking about.

You should be learning from me, instead of criticising

Yet we have formed our opinion and the only problem here is that it is different from yours.

If Bartel has a very ordinary year next year then so be it, but he has been fantastic this year and your maligning of him is silly and disrespectful.

And if, and that is a huge and unlikely if, you are actually proven correct, it doesn't automatically make you the yoda of all footy as you seem to think you are.

Your ego is staggering in every way shape and form. But what would I know, I am female !!!

Yet we have formed our opinion and the only problem here is that it is different from yours.

But what would I know, I am female !!!

Classy post QC, but you're only encouraging him.

You people have no idea

You are like sheep

You dont have the balls to form your own opinions

Its easy to say what you people are saying. Going along the common theme. When in the end I am the only one who knows what he is talking about.

You should be learning from me, instead of criticising

Wow.

Mate, sorry, I'll never be taking anything you say seriously again. Are you drunk?

Wow.

Mate, sorry, I'll never be taking anything you say seriously again. Are you drunk?

My comments were directed at Fergburger, Paul Gardner Riot Squad and redraft molam

I should have stated that in my original post