Lets have a quick review of our key position players in the forward line.

1. Neitz: was broken down all of 2007 and has not played good consistent football for a good few years now. It is possible (if not likely) that Neitz is past his best and wont be contributing to the forward set up like he has in the past.

2. Newton: Could become a very important player but is still young and raw (and known to be mentally erratic).

3. Dunn: does not look capable of holding down a key position spot. as bailey apparently touted in his interview, dunn will probably move into the midfield next year, maybe even as a tagger.

4. Miller: completely ineffective disposal. Does not take pack marks. (IMHO should be traded or delisted)

Apart from Robbo, thats it (and dont give me Jamar or Johnson as a consistent reliable forward target!!!)

Point being, why the hell are we looking to trade robbo???? he is our most promising forward target for the upcoming season by quite a long way. no point having judd in the side if you have no targets up forward for him to kick to......

I think it would be a grave mistake to get rid of robbo (or let him go, whatever the case maybe).

While I agree with your sentiments, and while I think we'll struggle up forward next year, Robbo is as good as gone.

I never thought I'd see Robbo playing for another club, but let's make one thing clear, we are not getting rid of him, he is choosing to leave for a better contract. If he agreed to 2 years, he'd be at Melbourne next year.

We are the Melbourne Football Club, not the "Charity Case Football Club". Seriously, it's time we stopped bending over backwards with our contracts, especially for our older players.

Even Nathan Jones only got 2 years!

The answer = Ryan Murphy

If Robbo Leaves our best forward option would be Ben Hollland at full forward, Neitz Forward Pocket. Sylvia CHF. I don't think there is any room for Miller unless Neitz is injured. If we get Judd then i say we should be looking at trading Johnstone for a key forward thats if Robbo goes which i hope he doesn't

good point. losing robbo means benny could play more bit parts up forward. his kicknig still worries me, but if he is the third tall, (neitz and newton) then its not a bad idea...

remembering players like bate, dunn, sylvia will rotate thru the forward line...

If Melbourne lose Robertson, then keeping Davey becomes all the more important.

If Melbourne lose Robertson, then keeping Davey becomes all the more important.

Depends what we would get for Robertson. If, for instance, we were to trade Robbo for Higgins or Giansiracusa then that becomes less important.

Davey would only go in a trade that involves Judd and IMO is expendable for that purpose, irrespective of what happens with Robbo.

The answer = Ryan Murphy

Are you guys serious?? As much as you you have to admire ben holland for getting the most out of his very limited abilities down back this year, we cannot be a serious contender for the finals with Ben Holland as one of our go to forwards, let alone as a replacement for robbo, who has been our most productive forward in the last 3-4 years.

If we lose robbo we are in a lot of trouble....especially if neitz's body continues to fail him.

im gonna go out on a limb and say neitzs body is not as bad as everyone thinks it is. his injuries have been bad luck. broken bones, collision to the knee. not soft tissue injuries which are typical of body failure.

Can anyone tell me where this info is coming from on trading Robbo, I am aware about the 3 year thing, is there anything in the papers saying he is pretty much going to leave?

Can anyone tell me where this info is coming from on trading Robbo, I am aware about the 3 year thing, is there anything in the papers saying he is pretty much going to leave?

There's nothing definitive as far as I'm aware, but Robbo conceded that he is looking at other offers here:

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/com...5E19769,00.html

i think its mostly from robbo. he came and said things like 'the dees have been great but ive been talking to the dogs and they want to offer me a three year deal'. has commented on 'how great a club the bulldogs are' etc. these are not direct quotes, just the sort of thing he has said. we wont offer him 3 years, nor should we imo and he has put his foot in his mouth now. he either backs right down or is gawn...

There's nothing definitive as far as I'm aware, but Robbo conceded that he is looking at other offers here:

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/com...5E19769,00.html

thanks for that article.

"Being a Melbourne man I would like to stay at the club I have played 11 years at and get the club back into some sort of form," he said.

Lets hope we can work it out. He is a dee through and through and it sounds like he wants to stay.

thanks for that article.

"Being a Melbourne man I would like to stay at the club I have played 11 years at and get the club back into some sort of form," he said.

Lets hope we can work it out. He is a dee through and through and it sounds like he wants to stay.

Crows: 10 + Hudson to Dogs for 5

Dogs: 10 to Demons for Robbo + 21

Dogs get Robbo + Hudson + 21 for 5

Crows: 10 + Hudson to Dogs for 5

Dogs: 10 to Demons for Robbo + 21

Dogs get Robbo + Hudson + 21 for 5

So in essence we get pick 10, not pick 5?

So in essence we get pick 10, not pick 5?

Because the difference between 21 and 5 is too great. Think about it, if we get 5 what do the Crows get for Hudson?

Because the difference between 21 and 5 is too great. Think about it, if we get 5 what do the Crows get for Hudson?

It makes sense, but the way you wrote it out, was confusing.

Will pick 4 + pick 10 + player x be enough?

Because the difference between 21 and 5 is too great. Think about it, if we get 5 what do the Crows get for Hudson?

Pick 22. Aker went for 29.

If we got 10 for Robbo and 21 it would be pathetic.

If you were Robbo and your blood was red and blue wouldn't you rather play two years at M.F.C than three wasteful years at the Western Bulldogs. Come on Robbo pull your head in and take a two year deal then you can go on veterans list for another 1 if you are up to it!

If you were Robbo and your blood was red and blue wouldn't you rather play two years at M.F.C than three wasteful years at the Western Bulldogs. Come on Robbo pull your head in and take a two year deal then you can go on veterans list for another 1 if you are up to it!

Maybe he's found some white blood cells in there as well.....

Pick 22. Aker went for 29.

If we got 10 for Robbo and 21 it would be pathetic.

I don't agree. What's your full deal?

It makes sense, but the way you wrote it out, was confusing.

Will pick 4 + pick 10 + player x be enough?

It would take some beating and even if not 4 + 10 in the draft would be great.

If Robbo is traded and we land Chris Judd, Robbo will be forgotten very quickly

As for our forward line, if Sylvia can finally have a full pre-season he will become one of the most dangersous players in the comp and will be twice as good as Robbo

Sylvia will be a 50 goal a seaon player that can play through the middle as well

Basically, he will be a superstar

Look at this forward line

Judd Newton Bate

Sylvia Neitz Davey

Look at this forward line

Judd Newton Bate

Sylvia Neitz Davey

So we are going after Judd to play as a HFF???

Maybe he's found some white blood cells in there as well.....

As old Brucey Mac would say, "Clever!"

On the issue at hand, Robbo's stubbornness is the problem here. The club is right to offer him 2 two years, and there is a good chance that we'd keep him on afterwards, but we shouldn't take the risk on a 29 yo who has dogey knees. He's clearly been taking lessons from Biz.