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Sheedy's win/loss ratio

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What is it with the Sheedy excitment.

His win / loss ratio over the past 5 years is well under 50%, and that is with a team that contained some serious class.

Is it me or would this be a backward step.

Hardwicke's the man.

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    just need 2 words

    FOUR PREMIERSHIPS !!!

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    He has won 4 premierships with Essendon. In 1984, 1985, 1993 and 2000.

    This does not mean that he is best coach for the Dees in 2008 - 8 seasons after he last coached a team to a Premiership.

    He was one of best coaches of the 80s and 90s but is clearly not one of the best coaches of this decade.

    His coaching and his list management at Essendon at Essendon since 2000 has not been what it was in the previous 20 seasons.

    Why do you think the Essendon Board got rid of him - beacause they knew he was past his best.

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    He has won 4 premierships with Essendon. In 1984, 1985, 1993 and 2000.

    This does not mean that he is best coach for the Dees in 2008 - 8 seasons after he last coached a team to a Premiership.

    He was one of best coaches of the 80s and 90s but is clearly not one of the best coaches of this decade.

    His coaching and his list management at Essendon at Essendon since 2000 has not been what it was in the previous 20 seasons.

    Why do you think the Essendon Board got rid of him - beacause they knew he was past his best.

    most people dont see Sheedy as a long-term 10 year option.

    what makes sheedy attractive above all else is that he is the only person who has the ability to rebuild our culture and list and recreate our image in the afl. we are currently seen as the basket case of the afl and this must change. sheedy is a once in a lifetime option who has the ability to really change MFC for the better.

    the fact he has won 4 premiership,made 22 finals appearences and take bombers to a grandfinal on average every 5 seasons is a bonus.

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    It's not his coaching nous that we're attracted to.

    Yeah, it's his body. Great body, can anyone else see that or is it just me??? :wub::rolleyes:

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    Should Sheeds be appointed it is unlikley it wil be done in a 'long term ' manner, however than doesnt preclude him from being around 6,7,8 years. Just means everyone is being a bit prudent and realistic about things.

    The four other contenders are coaches at best...Sheeds is a "Package"

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    take out last season and double check his win/loss percentage, then get back to me...

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    Over the past 4-5 years it's been worse than ND's. That'd be acceptable if EFC were about to unleash and take a flag, but they're nowhere near it - they've been relying on older stars to carry them this season. A players survey indicates that Sheedy isn't a good communicator, and there have been criticisms about the list management/youth development considering their predicament now. :|

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    Rogue i agree with ur worries about trading and youth development of late at essendon.

    plus sheedys weird trading tactics...campo, heffernan and cole...why?

    however last years drafting performance from sheedy was outstanding: Gumbleton, Jetta, Hislop, Davey, Houli, Riemers...all fantastic picks. so maybe its not such a worry.

    plus C.Cameron will still be heavily involved so shouldnt be too worried

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    In case any of you have missed his many interviews he often espouses his maxim that he really doesnt care too much about the losses per se. it how they lose and often you WILL lose before you start setting yourself up for the real wins..the ones that result in a premiership cup. Its not a widely held or agreed to philosophy I take it but it seems to work for him. Bit like Keatings economic ideas I suspect...lol

    Sheeds just lives for the 'left field".. not all understand it. After Sheeds tinkers and the side gels.. it storms home. W e at the MFC have not experienced anything like a Sheedy juggernaut...well... except on the receiving end ..lol :P

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    Over the past 4-5 years it's been worse than ND's. That'd be acceptable if EFC were about to unleash and take a flag, but they're nowhere near it - they've been relying on older stars to carry them this season. A players survey indicates that Sheedy isn't a good communicator, and there have been criticisms about the list management/youth development considering their predicament now. :|

    From 02 to now it is just above the 40% mark. If you take out 06 it is over 50% for that period - remember 06 when Lloyd kicked 13 goals in the first 2 rounds and then missed the rest of the season; Hird missed 9 games and didn't complete 2 others; Fletcher missed 6? His record is still pretty good and I reckon the Bombers are not as bad as a lot of people think. He will get the job done - and his record is better than Connolly's overall.

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    Team full of class? Their team of the last 3 seasons has been average, not crap or terrible, but average. They havnt overachieved or underachieved at all in the last 3 seasons. I'll tell you when they did overachieve; 1993...

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    most people dont see Sheedy as a long-term 10 year option.

    what makes sheedy attractive above all else is that he is the only person who has the ability to rebuild our culture and list and recreate our image in the afl. we are currently seen as the basket case of the afl and this must change. sheedy is a once in a lifetime option who has the ability to really change MFC for the better.

    the fact he has won 4 premiership,made 22 finals appearences and take bombers to a grandfinal on average every 5 seasons is a bonus.

    The Essendon list in 2007 is a basket case of Sheedy's creation. There is virtually no talent between Lloyd, Lucas, Fletcher and the kids picked up in the last few years. His list management since 2000 has been nothing other than mediocre and tactically he has been overtaken by other coaches. If we could have got him in 1981 or even 1991 then that would have been fantastic but we are talking about the Sheedy of 2007. The one that was sacked by the Bombers.

    Remember the criticism the Hawks got when they appointed Clarkson instead of a 'name' coach like Eade or Wallace or Matthews. The only issue the Board has to decide on is which of the applicants is most likely to coach us to our long awaited 13th Premiership. All other considerations are secondary and distant. And for mine Sheedy - for the reasons outlined above - and Connolly - just too darned nice just like Daniher - do not meet that criteria.

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