I wonder if there’s a better real world example than ‘woke’ that demonstrates how Orwells newspeak works.

There’s ‘fake news’ but before that there was Lügenpresse I guess so it’s derivative.

Then again before woke there was Kulturbolschewismus, so again, derivative.

Hard to pick which era of thought terminating cliche was better. It’s a tough choice.

11 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

It’s unbelievable these days though that people concern themselves with what sexual orientation another person is. Does it matter?

I don't believe for a single second that is what you meant.

10 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

In posters attempts to out-woke each other and prove that they’re the sites No. 1 most perpetually offended person, you’ve misunderstood the point of my message.

Demonland has its fair share of the out-woke, perpetually offended & smartest person in the room types.

Gay issues are ho hum. Try discussing Indigenous matters or racism.

12 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

In posters attempts to out-woke each other and prove that they’re the sites No. 1 most perpetually offended person, you’ve misunderstood the point of my message. So, I’ll explain and I’ll dumb it down as much as humanly possible; he’s gay and it’s 2026, very surprised that in 2026 people care and report on what someone else’s sexual preference is.

I think like you on this ET. Equality is the golden rule and treat people as people.

I do however feel that we need to have milestones like these to get to the normal and not a big deal part. For these people the struggle has been real and repressing a part of their true self in a football club and to the media world would have been extremely difficult.

It's not easy to get this balance right. I'm certainly not going to condemn those who just want to see people equally, there's worse attitudes happening in the world right now.

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11 hours ago, Big Col said:

Given that statistically they'll be amongst the 660 AFL listed players, obviously those who are gay aren't currently comfortable in announcing it (eg at a Brownlow function).

What disturbs me is that it’s the press who get hold of this news (by whatever means), and they use it as click bait on social media such as Facebook, because they know that it’s going to result in massive numbers of hits and it will bring out all of the homophobes in droves! All it does is add to the reasons that anyone, let alone an ex footballer (of any code), will remain silent about their sexuality… and I’m not talking about just in the sense of telling the world…it’s very possible they will be afraid to even tell those close to them. There is far too much encouragement of hate in social media!

I’d love to see gay players, rather than announcing themselves via press releases or whatever means was used in this case, just rock up to club events (even the Brownlow) with their partner, without making any announcement.

Guess that means "a light in the loafers" is now "a little light in the footy boots". Gotta keep up with the vernacular.

Edited 44 minutes ago44 min by Tony Tea