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The Sam Flanders Thread

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Could someone please fill me in on exactly what Flanders brings to the table that would add to the mix at Melbourne?

I confess that I don’t watch a great deal of the Suns games so I checked back on his possession count in the last five games …

14, 8, 16. did not play, 15

The last game was a thrashing against Richmond so he wasn’t exactly shining when they were beating up an AFL weakling.

Someone convince me please.

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    17 minutes ago, Mister Ed said:

    Could someone please fill me in on exactly what Flanders brings to the table that would add to the mix at Melbourne?

    I confess that I don’t watch a great deal of the Suns games so I checked back on his possession count in the last five games …

    14, 8, 16. did not play, 15

    The last game was a thrashing against Richmond so he wasn’t exactly shining when they were beating up an AFL weakling.

    Someone convince me please.

    I’m a bit like you in that I don’t watch a great deal of Suns games, especially when they play in the pink attire but I’ll make an exception tonight.

    I was however, at the game up north on the coast in late June when Melbourne played the Suns and he did give us a bit of a touch up that day as I recall. I checked his stats and he had 28 touches which placed him third overall behind Tracc (32) and Noble (29) so if Steven King could get him playing consistently at that level, then he would be an asset.

    Also, worth remembering is that it’s not necessarily the number of possessions that always count, it’s also their quality.

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    53 minutes ago, Mister Ed said:

    Could someone please fill me in on exactly what Flanders brings to the table that would add to the mix at Melbourne?

    I confess that I don’t watch a great deal of the Suns games so I checked back on his possession count in the last five games …

    14, 8, 16. did not play, 15

    The last game was a thrashing against Richmond so he wasn’t exactly shining when they were beating up an AFL weakling.

    Someone convince me please.

    He's played to a level that Sharp, Billings, Spargo, Handerson, Sparrow, Brown, Kolt (yet) & Woewodin have not.

    We need players from somewhere to fill list spots and an actual AFL player is far superior to a good VFL player.

    We can’t have AA players on every magnet, so upgrading these guys is a major step forward

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    50 minutes ago, Mister Ed said:

    Could someone please fill me in on exactly what Flanders brings to the table that would add to the mix at Melbourne?

    I confess that I don’t watch a great deal of the Suns games so I checked back on his possession count in the last five games …

    14, 8, 16. did not play, 15

    The last game was a thrashing against Richmond so he wasn’t exactly shining when they were beating up an AFL weakling.

    Someone convince me please.

    Flanders is a midfielder who has been squeezed out by Rowell, Anderson, Davies, Miller and Humphries.

    He’s playing the high half forward role which we know is high running intensity for low possession return - see Tom Sparrow as an example.

    The question for list management is this - Can Flanders evolve into a high quality midfielder if given the opportunity? In 2024 he averaged 30.9 disposals per game at 80% efficiency. The 5th highest count for the league.

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    To my mind we need to chase player that at a minimum -

    1- fill a perceived hole in our list present or future

    2 - immediately improve your bottom 6-10 players

    3 - improve depth and provide just in case scenario, a la TC.

    Wade Derkson shores up our tall Back stock

    Max Heath would improve our ruck stocks immediately

    Sam Flanders immediately improves our best 23

    These are the types of players we need to improve our list.

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    3 hours ago, Dannyz said:

    Flanders is a midfielder who has been squeezed out by Rowell, Anderson, Davies, Miller and Humphries.

    He’s playing the high half forward role which we know is high running intensity for low possession return - see Tom Sparrow as an example.

    The question for list management is this - Can Flanders evolve into a high quality midfielder if given the opportunity? In 2024 he averaged 30.9 disposals per game at 80% efficiency. The 5th highest count for the league.

    Are we seriously a chance though?

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    3 hours ago, Dannyz said:

    Flanders is a midfielder who has been squeezed out by Rowell, Anderson, Davies, Miller and Humphries.

    He’s playing the high half forward role which we know is high running intensity for low possession return - see Tom Sparrow as an example.

    The question for list management is this - Can Flanders evolve into a high quality midfielder if given the opportunity? In 2024 he averaged 30.9 disposals per game at 80% efficiency. The 5th highest count for the league.

    3 hours ago, Dannyz said:

    Flanders is a midfielder who has been squeezed out by Rowell, Anderson, Davies, Miller and Humphries.

    He’s playing the high half forward role which we know is high running intensity for low possession return - see Tom Sparrow as an example.

    The question for list management is this - Can Flanders evolve into a high quality midfielder if given the opportunity? In 2024 he averaged 30.9 disposals per game at 80% efficiency. The 5th highest count for the league.

    Second this.

    It's an awful role for an accumulator to remain effective in. Sheezel was used similarly early to mid season and he fell off a cliff until they threw him back into centre bounce.

    Flanders played majority off HB flank in 24 but surplus to requirements there once they traded for Rioli.

    Not 100% sold on the fit, and queries about damage by foot imo but definitely the profile of player we should be looking at.

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    36 minutes ago, BigDavidNoitzzzz said:

    Second this.

    It's an awful role for an accumulator to remain effective in. Sheezel was used similarly early to mid season and he fell off a cliff until they threw him back into centre bounce.

    Flanders played majority off HB flank in 24 but surplus to requirements there once they traded for Rioli.

    Not 100% sold on the fit, and queries about damage by foot imo but definitely the profile of player we should be looking at.

    High half forward is where midfielders go to die

    You need a particular type of player to play that role - it was why Nibbler was so valuable for us

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    51 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

    Are we seriously a chance though?

    If he nominates us we are

    Otherwise not sure we’d have the draft capital to compete with other Vic clubs

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