Neita takes a different view to the Prez

[warren dean 193]

Interesting times ahead!

http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/News...px?newsId=46293

[Jarka 767]

As the Captain of the MFC Neitz shouldn't have made those comments.

[Jaded No More 57,708]

Neita is a brilliant player and an inspirational captain, but a club president and a businessman he ain't.

If the players were so against Daniher leaving, then maybe they could have lead better, worked harder... you know, since apperantly injuries were no excuse for getting so badly beaten this year (so we've heard the players say)*.

I love Neita and I feel for him because the reality is, he's unlikely to walk away from the game with a flag.

But at the end of the day, having been there longer than anyone, he'd know very well that to move forward you sometimes have to make hard decisions.

There are positives and negatives in Daniher's early exist. A negative would the feelings of the players, a positive would be their ability to pay their respects and say a proper goodbye. Then of course there is the issue of the club having an extra 9 weeks to look for a new coach.

The positives far far outweigh the negatives, and Gardner is right, the situation would have become public sooner or later. Why lie when transparency is so much more dignified for all involved?!

*Note: I am NOT sticking the boot into Neita and our poor season is not his fault.

[Jonesy is the next captain 0]

"Neitz was critical of the way the club brought forward a review of the coaching position which ultimately prompted Daniher to quit as coach this week. He said Gardner should have stuck to the agreement he had publicly revealed earlier this year - that no decision on the coaching job would be made until the season was over"

Neitz clearly gets it and what he says has absolute truth, I am glad Neitz has spoken out you cannot publicly say one thing and do another (unless you are a politician). If we are playing next week the season is NOT over. Good on you Neita standing up for what you believe in and for what many of us do. No Jaded Neitz isnt a business man but I trust his football opinion over Gardiners and this decision involves football not our finances

[Sir Why You Little 34,426]

Neita is a brilliant player and an inspirational captain, but a club president and a businessman he ain't.

If the players were so against Daniher leaving, then maybe they could have lead better, worked harder... you know, since apperantly injuries were no excuse for getting so badly beaten this year (so we've heard the players say)*.

I love Neita and I feel for him because the reality is, he's unlikely to walk away from the game with a flag.

But at the end of the day, having been there longer than anyone, he'd know very well that to move forward you sometimes have to make hard decisions.

There are positives and negatives in Daniher's early exist. A negative would the feelings of the players, a positive would be their ability to pay their respects and say a proper goodbye. Then of course there is the issue of the club having an extra 9 weeks to look for a new coach.

The positives far far outweigh the negatives, and Gardner is right, the situation would have become public sooner or later. Why lie when transparency is so much more dignified for all involved?!

*Note: I am NOT sticking the boot into Neita and our poor season is not his fault.

Correct on all accounts-its a tough world out there and decisions had to be made for the Betterment of the MFC-that's what Gardiner did

[LeBron James 41]

"Neitz was critical of the way the club brought forward a review of the coaching position which ultimately prompted Daniher to quit as coach this week. He said Gardner should have stuck to the agreement he had publicly revealed earlier this year - that no decision on the coaching job would be made until the season was over"

Neitz clearly gets it and what he says has absolute truth, I am glad Neitz has spoken out you cannot publicly say one thing and do another (unless you are a politician). If we are playing next week the season is NOT over. Good on you Neita standing up for what you believe in and for what many of us do. No Jaded Neitz isnt a business man but I trust his football opinion over Gardiners and this decision involves football not our finances

I know its off topic but why would you want lyon if he has publicly stated that he doesnt want the job?

[Jonesy is the next captain 0]

I know its off topic but why would you want lyon if he has publicly stated that he doesnt want the job?

Because he can always change his mind a la Paul Gardner :-P

Plus I read this mornings paper that Danners reckons he would be good too and that he should put his hand up, and I would like Voss but in a couple of years. But as was just pointed out Voss might be our only reasonable choice

[Sir Why You Little 34,426]

"Neitz was critical of the way the club brought forward a review of the coaching position which ultimately prompted Daniher to quit as coach this week. He said Gardner should have stuck to the agreement he had publicly revealed earlier this year - that no decision on the coaching job would be made until the season was over"

Neitz clearly gets it and what he says has absolute truth, I am glad Neitz has spoken out you cannot publicly say one thing and do another (unless you are a politician). If we are playing next week the season is NOT over. Good on you Neita standing up for what you believe in and for what many of us do. No Jaded Neitz isnt a business man but I trust his football opinion over Gardiners and this decision involves football not our finances

Look i sympathize with Nieta and ND, but 2 goals to Half time against Richmond was unacceptable. The Damage done for the rest of the year could have been disasterous. But from here the new dawn begins. I believe even ND will agree in time

[Still Waiting 94]

Whist Neitz is entitled to his view he has no right to criticise the President the way he did on the radio today. If more of the players had shown more heart over the last 20 or so games the club played in, then this situation would not have happened. If Neitz wants to go public then let him apologise to ND on behalf of all the players for letting the coach, team management, members and all supporters down time and time again. I love Neita but he and all the players have to get on with performing the way they are paid to do!

[Jaded No More 57,708]

This should have been done in private.

[Sir Why You Little 34,426]

This should have been done in private.

This business could not have been done in private. it would have come out and been far worse, We lost the first 9 games. Things had to be acted on now

[Alan Smithee 0]

If the players were so against Daniher leaving, then maybe they could have lead better, worked harder... you know, since apperantly injuries were no excuse for getting so badly beaten this year (so we've heard the players say)*.

*Note: I am NOT sticking the boot into Neita and our poor season is not his fault.

Lets not be contradictory.The playing group are just as accountable for the performance of the club, as is the coach, president & boot studder. Neitz is a part of all of this. You are right Jaded, at the end of the day, excuses are simply that.

Gardner did bring forward his agenda. Whether it it is right or wrong will always be open for debate. As a member I'm all for that. But the fact that as club leaders, both Neitz & Gardner going to the press to express their views demonstrates another example of a lack of discipline when under pressure. For years, this has been the one constant in the clubs performance.

[Jaded No More 57,708]

This business could not have been done in private. it would have come out and been far worse, We lost the first 9 games. Things had to be acted on now

I was refering to Neita's comments.

[Sir Why You Little 34,426]

I was refering to Neita's comments.

Fair enough-Yes Nieta and Paul should have a lunch or dinner together this week

[demon3165 1,909]

"Neitz was critical of the way the club brought forward a review of the coaching position which ultimately prompted Daniher to quit as coach this week. He said Gardner should have stuck to the agreement he had publicly revealed earlier this year - that no decision on the coaching job would be made until the season was over"

Neitz clearly gets it and what he says has absolute truth, I am glad Neitz has spoken out you cannot publicly say one thing and do another (unless you are a politician). If we are playing next week the season is NOT over. Good on you Neita standing up for what you believe in and for what many of us do. No Jaded Neitz isnt a business man but I trust his football opinion over Gardiners and this decision involves football not our finances

Oh, the prez should have said nothing, but it's ok for neitz to come out and open his mouth, damm you have double standards.

[beelzebub 22,225]

tsk tsk David Neitz. I have all respect for you as a player...as a player on the field...but obviously you are a lamb when it comes to player in the world.l

This will get me no kudos...I couldnt care.

Neale Daniher whom Im repsect immensely knew what the game was about...apparetnly Neeta dosen't. david...go cool off. Daveif describes what he thinks its all about.. but he's wrong.

All those lining up............................... -------------------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line up here !!

Something had to be done...and it was..thank god !!! teh problem is Danners is a nice bloke..but that not th eissue. So many have not got their heads around this properly.

Im glad that Paul called a spade a spade., Im glad that MFC has hte balls to instigate change. Some ppl think that you need to work to some supposed seasaonal timetable. PG and MFC board were working to a real timetable...the here and now.

nNeeta..I know its emotional...but you're wrong. what you stand for is commendable, but its in appropriate, Neale knows that...you need to acept it

[Guest bjs]

Most Melbourne supporters on this issue seem to be anti neitz and daniher whilst pro gardner.Whhat is going on.I know whos souls I'd punt on.

We need a biopsy for i fear our prez may be a cancer.i think i see signs of early detection.David Neitz is a strong powerful leader who has played under more duress than we can empathise.He has atleast earnt the right to comment when he sees unfairness afoot.

I keep hearing football is a business from our fans.No wonder our crowds are so low.Maybe theyd have more fun at a blue chip A.G.M.

[beelzebub 22,225]

mate we simply understand it s more than a player or players or even a caoch....its about a club

[beelzebub 22,225]

Its funny.......for years we have wanted a club, indeed a pres who had their eye on more than the present...indeed on the future and what it might bring. We get one..and he's a no-no !!

[Guest bjs]

Mate i do seriously doubt you have ever been part of a football club.its not that club is more than its coach,its players or anyone else.A club encompasses everybody and a president should be best served to do this.To say nobody is as big as the club is a realm for sycophants in justifying their own agendas.

[Jaded No More 57,708]

Yep, we finally have someone in charge who has the balls to make the tough calls, and now people are bitching and crying about it.

A few weeks ago nearly everyone was in favour of finding a new coach at the end of the season. Now they got their wish, and yet they still find reasons to be unhappy.

When a coach leaves a club after 10 years, it's never going to be a big sweet farewell. Feelings are bound to get hurt, and people are bound to be upset.

What has transpired over the last week has been handled with the utmost dignity and transparency, in order to avoid an ugly media circus. It was short and swift instead of nasty.

Daniher chose to not coach out the season, he was not forced into anything.

I really don't understand how anyone who wanted him gone, can be unhappy with this situation? Not only is he not the coach of the MFC anymore, we now also have an extra 9 weeks to find a replacement. This is probably the best outcome given the circumstances.

Neita and the rest of the players will get over it.

[beelzebub 22,225]

Mate i do seriously doubt you have ever been part of a football club.its not that club is more than its coach,its players or anyone else.A club encompasses everybody and a president should be best served to do this.To say nobody is as big as the club is a realm for sycophants in justifying their own agendas.

this isnt "CLUB" footy its AFL !!

[Guest bjs]

I think your AFL may be more of A Fools League.

I argued with you last week about the oncoming debacle caused by gardners loose lips.Whether or not neitz has earnt enough validity to make comments on the happenings he has made them.its a debacle.should we get rid of him next.no man is bigger than the footy club .by your rationale gardner will be the only one left.

[beelzebub 22,225]

This isnt local footy..its big boys leagu. [censored] happens. You deal with it. Nobody want s anyone crying on shoulders at his level. Or if so...do so behind closed doors as Im not intersted.

things to rmember .; Neeta is a participant in club sponsored events; i.e he is paid to perform. thats where his particpation starts and stops. If he want s to run for pres, and take on all the [censored] that goes with it he's more than welcome. I dont think that PG hs done a 100% perect job, but neither had DN !!

I appreciate neetas loyalty to his mentor...but thats what it is. As always I dont give arats arse who wears the jumper ., onlu that they respect it. The jumper will be around a lot longer than anyone.

Actually for what its worth I reckon DN was quite reserved in what he said, and even that was too much. I can appreciate where it came from, but I dont care for it .

[Guest bjs]

I just dont get your blanket approval of gardner.you keep justifying his position by inanely repeating the business of the game and how its a big boys league.I would imagine gardner and his lackies would have hoped plenty of time would be spent on figuring the best and most professional way to travel inter state for games.Its a business and all the i's need to be dotted.

Why then not spend time on transition.It was a [censored] up in immediacy .unprofessional.they wouldnt put neita in an economy seat to perth.why get the playing group odff side with the board when a more calculated plan would have been accepted.

it was about respect and they recieved zero.you take respect from a playing group and you may aswell trade them all.

who is our next coach?.conjecture, a great recipe for success.the clubs in no mans land.atleast when maguire shafted shaw he had malthouse waitng in the wings.thats professional.our guy has shown impulsive leadership when more business like profesional heads should have prevailed.

professional?it was amateur hour at the local footy club at melbourne this week.