4 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Did we want Houston for those reasons or did we want his elite kicking, and therefore will we favour someone like Xavier Lindsay?

I see Allan's issue more as decision making than skills. Which worries me for his ability to be a high level half back because seeing the ground and picking your moments is such a core component at half back. But I agree that's just the start of his career and long term he looms a midfielder. The decision making matters less there.

On ball he just hasn't accumulated big numbers and that to me indicates a player who's more reactive at the stoppages and around the ground than proactive. He hunts the ball hard when it's there but other players move first. Long term do he stay more of a defensive mid than an attacking one?

He's a safe bet to play a lot of AFL footy with his physical tools and work rate. Just not sure we traded half the farm for safe, even with the physical upside.

I agree with the first bit. I think we targeted Houston for his ball use.

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Having tossed up a few options I've settled in on Bo Allan as our preferred option at pick 9.

Everything of him screams of Angus Brayshaw in terms of versatility and competitiveness, something the club saw as a great need hence why we targetedDan Houston.

He'll start his career off a half back and I have no doubt he can slot in at that role come round 1. This also means Rivers now transition to being a full time mid.

I know some have concerns over his disposal but I don't think it's that bad as some are making it out to be. It's his competitive drive, power and speed off the mark, and ability to read the play is why I think he's got enormous potential. 

Not sure Allan will still be there at 9

2 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Not sure Allan will still be there at 9

How are we after a combination of 2 of Langford, Allan, Tauru if none of the above are suspected to be available at pick 9 🧐

18 minutes ago, adonski said:

How are we after a combination of 2 of Langford, Allan, Tauru if none of the above are suspected to be available at pick 9 🧐

I don’t think Allan gets past Saints.

I think the following combos could happen:

 Crows take Draper 

- Langford at 5 

- Tauru at 9.  

Crows take Langford:

- Allan at 5

- Tauru at 9 

I think there will still be moving parts though, I did read today Saints might trade 1 of their picks 

Edited November 17, 20241 yr by Demons11

1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

I don’t think Allan gets past Saints.

I think the following combos could happen:

 Crows take Draper 

- Langford at 5 

- Tauru at 9.  

Crows take Langford:

- Allan at 5

- Tauru at 9 

I think there will still be moving parts though, I did read today Saints might trade 1 of their picks 

Interesting, suggests we don't rate Draper 

Tough to see Tauru getting past the paints given they have multiple picks and have recently lost Battle

4 minutes ago, adonski said:

Interesting, suggests we don't rate Draper 

Tough to see Tauru getting past the paints given they have multiple picks and have recently lost Battle

Curious if that’s the case - I have him ranked third after Smith and Langford (excluding Ashcroft)

I think those four have been the most consistent and are the most bankable at AFL level - would be disappointing not to grab any of them 

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

I don’t think Allan gets past Saints.

I think the following combos could happen:

 Crows take Draper 

- Langford at 5 

- Tauru at 9.  

Crows take Langford:

- Allan at 5

- Tauru at 9 

I think there will still be moving parts though, I did read today Saints might trade 1 of their picks 

Why do you think we wouldn’t pick Draper?

4 minutes ago, 2021 said:

Why do you think we wouldn’t pick Draper?

Just have a feeling we are looking for big mids.  

5 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Just have a feeling we are looking for big mids.  

And you think Allan is worth 5?

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Having tossed up a few options I've settled in on Bo Allan as our preferred option at pick 9.

Everything of him screams of Angus Brayshaw in terms of versatility and competitiveness, something the club saw as a great need hence why we targetedDan Houston.

He'll start his career off a half back and I have no doubt he can slot in at that role come round 1. This also means Rivers now transition to being a full time mid.

I know some have concerns over his disposal but I don't think it's that bad as some are making it out to be. It's his competitive drive, power and speed off the mark, and ability to read the play is why I think he's got enormous potential. 

Just to back this up on why I think he's got huge potential to dominate in the midfield in years to come.

This is from an under 18 Colts game this year where he played mainly as an inside midfielder. Not only does he do the inside grunt work, but his ability to spread on the outside and explode from contest is why he's a tantalising propsect. 

 

12 minutes ago, 2021 said:

And you think Allan is worth 5?

I think his draft range is 7-12, so not far behind off.  
 

Taylor has a great eye, so if he thinks so then so be it

Edited November 17, 20241 yr by Demons11

1 hour ago, adonski said:

Interesting, suggests we don't rate Draper 

Tough to see Tauru getting past the paints given they have multiple picks and have recently lost Battle

An Adelaide poster on another site who says he has a contact at Melbourne says we won't take Draper due to concerns over his kicking.

He also says that Melbourne believe Adelaide want North's pick 2 for O'Sullivan and not the reported interest in Jagga Smith.

4 minutes ago, Gator said:

An Adelaide poster on another site who says he has a contact at Melbourne says we won't take Draper due to concerns over his kicking.

He also says that Melbourne believe Adelaide want North's pick 2 for O'Sullivan and not the reported interest in Jagga Smith.

Thanks Gator, that other site does have its uses sometimes

Hotton

7 minutes ago, adonski said:

Thanks Gator, that other site does have its uses sometimes

They also confirm Melbourne's interest in Allan and that we've seen him in WA more than once.

15 minutes ago, Gator said:

An Adelaide poster on another site who says he has a contact at Melbourne says we won't take Draper due to concerns over his kicking.

He also says that Melbourne believe Adelaide want North's pick 2 for O'Sullivan and not the reported interest in Jagga Smith.

Thanks for that Gator - interesting though that we’d take Allan who arguably has more knocks on his kicking than Draper 

16 minutes ago, Gator said:

An Adelaide poster on another site who says he has a contact at Melbourne says we won't take Draper due to concerns over his kicking.

He also says that Melbourne believe Adelaide want North's pick 2 for O'Sullivan and not the reported interest in Jagga Smith.

Concerns over kicking is probably the biggest knock on Allan, though. I’m big on the kid and he’s by far my preference at pick 9, but seems redundant to overlook Draper, whose agility and evasiveness is immense, because of concerns re his kicking, but reach on someone who also has kicking issues, but doesn’t probably have the same ceiling that Draper has. 

Just can’t see us taking Langford AND Allan. 2 190cm+ left footed big bodied mids? Dont think so in my opinion. 

Edited November 17, 20241 yr by 12345_54321

1 minute ago, 12345_54321 said:

Just can’t see us taking Langford AND Allen. 2 190cm+ left footed big bodied mids? Dont think so in my opinion. 

Both have secondary positions it'll be cushty

Langford and Lindsay is a great combination I reckon. Still think there’s a chance we slide back with 9 though and get an extra pick in the 20’s. 

3 minutes ago, 12345_54321 said:

Just can’t see us taking Langford AND Allen. 2 190cm+ left footed big bodied mids? Dont think so in my opinion. 

It's ''Allan''.

One's a mid forward and the other is a defensive mid.  Allan would start at half back before graduating through the midfield.

I love the combination.

4 minutes ago, Gator said:

It's ''Allan''.

One's a mid forward and the other is a defensive mid.  Allan would start at half back before graduating through the midfield.

I love the combination.

I love Smith, but would he very happy with two monster mids to go with Clarry, Viney and Trac.

28 minutes ago, Roddog said:

Concerns over kicking is probably the biggest knock on Allan, though. I’m big on the kid and he’s by far my preference at pick 9, but seems redundant to overlook Draper, whose agility and evasiveness is immense, because of concerns re his kicking, but reach on someone who also has kicking issues, but doesn’t probably have the same ceiling that Draper has. 

I'm sure they'd take Draper at pick 9, but he won't be there.

Overlooking Draper at pick 5 due to his kicking simply means they rate one of the other mids higher at pick 5.  It doesn't mean they don't rate Draper, but have him lower due to his kicking.

Pick 9 is a different issue.  If there's a slight knock on Allan's kicking, but they love his other attributes and potential ceiling then they'll weigh up those considerations. 

And 9 is far from a ''reach'' on Allan.  He may not make it to pick 9.

Edited November 17, 20241 yr by Gator

5 minutes ago, Gator said:

I'm sure they'd take Draper at pick 9, but he won't be there.

Overlooking Draper at pick 5 due to his kicking simply means they rate one of the other mids higher at pick 5.  It doesn't mean they don't rate Draper, but have him lower due to his kicking.

Pick 9 is a different issue.  If there's a slight knock on Allan's kicking, but they love his other attributes and potential ceiling then they'll weigh up those considerations. 

And 9 is far from a ''reach'' on Allan.  He may not make it to pick 9.

My bad, I was saying 5 is a reach for Allan, not 9

2 hours ago, Demons11 said:

I don’t think Allan gets past Saints.

I think the following combos could happen:

 Crows take Draper 

- Langford at 5 

- Tauru at 9.  

Crows take Langford:

- Allan at 5

- Tauru at 9 

I think there will still be moving parts though, I did read today Saints might trade 1 of their picks 

Cal T. did recently link us to these 3 players, but if this is accurate, I hope we do pick Langford.

Edited November 17, 20241 yr by 2021