Email from Peter Lawrence

[demon3165 2,565]

8 hours ago, Dante said:

No need to call me Jesus, just Dante will do 

Now where did I mention talking to someone with out legal representation?

You’re just looking for an argument, you do whenever this subject is discussed and you get more strident the longer it continues. Why don’t you just finish your drink and go to bed. 

You are seriously all over the place I answer your questions and you complain you now saying I'm looking for an argument, I'm looking for facts it's that simple, as for your last comment suggest you grow up.

[demon3165 2,565]

8 hours ago, Dante said:

Read what you said, it makes no sense, then again it probably does to you. 

What part don't you understand, come on write them down.

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[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,521]

14 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

And what are these things you say facts only please...

Let's see what they do next.

[Guest]

36 minutes ago, JJJ said:

Just using your Demonland user name as a reference point. 

Go for it.

Let me know what you find out.

[BDA 22,238]

7 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

You are seriously all over the place I answer your questions and you complain you now saying I'm looking for an argument, I'm looking for facts it's that simple, as for your last comment suggest you grow up.

what is the club doing right at the moment? just facts please 

[Guest]

40 minutes ago, JJJ said:

This is a slight overreaction. There’s no personalisation. Just an email address. This is akin to receiving a flyer in your letterbox back in the day.

I could find out more about you in an hour if I wanted. Just using your Demonland user name as a reference point. Add to that, the enormous amount of information that’s in your Google profile. (You don’t need a Google account to have a profile. They can accurately profile individuals without it)

And you would need to get my name and address from somewhere to deliver said flyer.

This guy is behaving disgracefully and egotistically.

[demon3165 2,565]

So you cannot answer the questions either, just because the media pile on you believe it, I'm not saying they are right or wrong but to say there are problems with the board without facts it's wrong people's credibility get called into line.

[Skuit 9,926]

15 hours ago, hardtack said:

I suspect that Peter Lawrence is a member of Demonland and possibly(?) engaging in this thread. Could @Demonland please reveal the name under which Mr Lawrence does post on these forums… surely he couldn’t object, all things considered!

More than that. I get a sense of a paid Tripadvisor-style 'review farm' going on here, which wouldn't be unfamiliar to Peter during his time in Southeast Asia. Totally based on instinct as a writer, but there are some striking similarities in the phrasing being used by various posters, and a 'voice' which doesn't match their previous posts. 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Skuit said:

More than that. I get a sense of a paid Tripadvisor-style 'review farm' going on here, which wouldn't be unfamiliar to Peter during his time in Southeast Asia. Totally based on instinct as a writer, but there are some striking similarities in the phrasing being used by various posters, and a 'voice' which doesn't match their previous posts. 

I think that there is more than that going on.

[Jaded No More 67,601]

10 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

So you cannot answer the questions either, just because the media pile on you believe it, I'm not saying they are right or wrong but to say there are problems with the board without facts it's wrong people's credibility get called into line.

Did you read what I wrote about how the perception of our club is damaging it?

Do you not think it is the responsibility of the board and management team to control the brand narrative of our club? 

[Guest]

"I request that all personal information held in relation to my membership be destroyed.

In my work situation I cannot allow unknown parties to access my information.  I understand that the club is not at fault.

 

When joining the club I did so having read the terms of the privacy agreement which I expected to be upheld.   Had I had doubts I would not have joined the club.

 

It is with deep regret that I make this decision as it will cease many years of continuous membership.

 

Please advise me when this is completed."

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[JJJ 1,001]

7 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Did you read what I wrote about how the perception of our club is damaging it?

Do you not think it is the responsibility of the board and management team to control the brand narrative of our club? 

Let’s put it in a corporate sense shall we?

MFC forecast a profitable year (IE top 4, commercial coverage for partners, expanding membership & additional external revenue) yet have delivered 14th position, a PR nightmare, our best players looking at options and generally mixed messaging to our membership/partners re culture/brand etc.

What organisation wouldn’t see the above and think a review was needed, one which is over and above what we normally do at seasons end. We’ve missed the mark by a wide margin. We are damaged goods again.

The best bit is, it’s a win-win. We run a review and it finds problems we can address. Win! We run a review and it says there’s nothing to see here and our [censored] season was an act of god. Win!

I think people are misinterpreting a desire for a review with a desire to see certain people burned at the stake.

It’s [censored] depressing to read some comments on here. They show how our society has lost the ability to have constructive conversations. We all support the same club and yet people can’t see the other side of a discussion. 

[JJJ 1,001]

35 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

And you would need to get my name and address from somewhere to deliver said flyer.

This guy is behaving disgracefully and egotistically.

Was the email addressed to you?

[Jaded No More 67,601]

11 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

"I request that all personal information held in relation to my membership be destroyed.

In my work situation I cannot allow unknown parties to access my information.  I understand that the club is not at fault.

 

When joining the club I did so having read the terms of the privacy agreement which I expected to be upheld.   Had I had doubts I would not have joined the club.

 

It is with deep regret that I make this decision as it will cease many years of continuous membership.

 

Please advise me when this is completed."

How do you feel about club sponsors emailing you? 

Have you emailed Hertz and New Balance too? 

[BringBackTheDemon 104]

11 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

"I request that all personal information held in relation to my membership be destroyed.

In my work situation I cannot allow unknown parties to access my information.  I understand that the club is not at fault.

 

When joining the club I did so having read the terms of the privacy agreement which I expected to be upheld.   Had I had doubts I would not have joined the club.

 

It is with deep regret that I make this decision as it will cease many years of continuous membership.

 

Please advise me when this is completed."

You shouldn't join any organisation that asks for your details to begin with if you are that concerned. What were you thinking Stretch? 😜

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, BringBackTheDemon said:

You shouldn't join any organisation that asks for your details to begin with if you are that concerned. What were you thinking Stretch? 😜

I guess I trusted the club

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[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

How do you feel about club sponsors emailing you? 

Have you emailed Hertz and New Balance too? 

False equivalence.

Its part of the privacy agreement.

I didn't expect emails from some random dude with a beef.  What next?

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[BringBackTheDemon 104]

1 minute ago, Stretch Johnson said:

That is part of the privacy agreement.

Some random dude with a beef definitely sits outside that.  It's common sense.

Who initially asked the club to send emails on his behalf so he didnt have to obtain your email address and the club said no. 

[JJJ 1,001]

42 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Go for it.

Let me know what you find out.

I am not going to do that. Doesn’t change the fact that I and others could find out granular details.

[Dingo 1,010]

18 hours ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I'm very middle of the road for all things on this matter. There has been good done, but also faults on both sides. I very much respect Peter's contribution to the club and dedication.

However, the timing and content of this email just further emphasizes he does not know how to 'read the room'. To send this right now, at a time most Melbourne supporters would be sick of being punched down on, and to include a 'call to action' which I'm sure he will use for his own purposes and potentially not just for the stated outcome; paints him in a poor light in regards to being a level headed leader.

Peter, if you happen to read Demonland, I very much agree with the idea of an external review and I have my own issues with the current board, but please, going forward, take some time to have a breath and consider things before taking such actions in the future. Timing and tact are important. We have work to do now, not more battles to create.

Lawrence is reacting to an email sent out by the BOARD.

And is legally entitled to do so - according to the Judge.

[FreedFromDesire 586]

12 minutes ago, Dingo said:

Lawrence is reacting to an email sent out by the BOARD.

And is legally entitled to do so - according to the Judge.

I haven't disputed either of those things, and have also been critical of the email sent by the board.

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, JJJ said:

I am not going to do that. Doesn’t change the fact that I and others could find out granular details.

"I could find out more about you in an hour if I wanted. Just using your Demonland user name as a reference point. "

So can you do this or not?

Did you just make it up to try to win some sort of argument?

[old55 22,753]

3 hours ago, Stretch Johnson said:

That's a cop out. How about he doesn't go to court to get my protected details and he doesn't contact me in the first place.

I am going to be seeking advice of my own today. 

Just unbelievable that my details have been handed to this random.

I think you were asleep in the back seat and missed a large and important part of the journey ....

[JJJ 1,001]

I could. It wouldn’t do it as I work in a field where this is not allowed but yes, I could. The technology exists as do the people who can use it.

I was showed how to check what Google has on me and it’s outrageous the level of knowledge they have. 

In addition I am not interested in arguing with you. You seem to have an axe to grind. I was merely pointing out that access to an email address is the least of your concerns if privacy is an issue.

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, JJJ said:

I could. It wouldn’t do it as I work in a field where this is not allowed but yes, I could. The technology exists as do the people who can use it.

I was showed how to check what Google has on me and it’s outrageous the level of knowledge they have. 

In addition I am not interested in arguing with you. You seem to have an axe to grind. I was merely pointing out that access to an email address is the least of your concerns if privacy is an issue.

One simple axe.

My details have been given to a random third party without my permission.

Anyway it's done now.  What a shame to finish in this way.

I miss sitting in the stands watching Robbie with my old man.

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