Blues the Dee-stroyers?

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

Carlton will trouble us and may get us during the season.

Their midfield bats deeper than ours and I reckon their balance is better at centre bounce and stoppage in regards to type of mids.

It's their small forwards that I can see getting off the chain, especially if we're not 'on' through the midfield and the ball comes in quick.

We haven't come up a side for a long time who are have a handful of really high energy and high pressure forwards and we've always leaked goals that way.

They are definitely the team I'm most concerned about if they continue this wave of momentum and form.

Edited May 27, 2022 by JimmyGadson

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,240]

2 hours ago, Grapeviney said:

I'd argue the contrary - the fact that a number of sides have gotten close shows the leads can be reined in. Most of those games could have gone either way. It would be a different story if teams were falling 4-5 goals short. 

Having opposition teams storming home against you every second week is no way to be winning games of football. 

Our 3-4 goals leads are infinitely safer than Carlton's 6-7 goal leads right now. 

But the fact of the matter is they've won all those games.

They've done all the heavy lifting with leads ranging from 37 to 51 points. The leads have been too much for the opposition to steal the win  because they've used up all their petrol tickets in the 3rd quarter and early last quarter.

For example, the Dogs and Sydney dominated inside 50's in the last quarter but missed far too many shots or couldn't get their inside 50 connection going because they were too fatigued after putting on the gas after half time.

Until they drop a game with a big lead, I'm not sure how you can argue that their game trend/tactic/strategy isn't working.

 

Edited May 27, 2022 by Bring-Back-Powell

[Watson11 2,246]

@binman ‘s analysis is excellent. Commentators just fail to understand why we are mid table for conversion of inside 50s, which is exactly as binman stated in the we are defence first and kick to the pockets as the first option. That’s low percentage to convert immediately to a goal but high percentage that the next score is ours even if it takes multiple inside 50s. 

@WheeloRatings is posting some excellent data. If you look at ball movement, Carlton move the ball slowly and tend to move sideways. Against decent defences that run hard defensively they will struggle to score freely. So far Carlton have played 1 team in the top 6 defensively (Freo), and scored 62 points in perfect conditions.

Add a Carlton defence that is middle of the road (they are improving though) and they have a long way to go and are not our main threat.

[Engorged Onion 10,224]

1 hour ago, Watson11 said:

@binman ‘s analysis is excellent. Commentators just fail to understand why we are mid table for conversion of inside 50s, which is exactly as binman stated in the we are defence first and kick to the pockets as the first option. That’s low percentage to convert immediately to a goal but high percentage that the next score is ours even if it takes multiple inside 50s. 

@WheeloRatings is posting some excellent data. If you look at ball movement, Carlton move the ball slowly and tend to move sideways. Against decent defences that run hard defensively they will struggle to score freely. So far Carlton have played 1 team in the top 6 defensively (Freo), and scored 62 points in perfect conditions.

Add a Carlton defence that is middle of the road (they are improving though) and they have a long way to go and are not our main threat.

Full of sense. and as Bruce would suggest, 'delicious'.

[binman 44,512]

19 hours ago, Watson11 said:

@binman ‘s analysis is excellent. Commentators just fail to understand why we are mid table for conversion of inside 50s, which is exactly as binman stated in the we are defence first and kick to the pockets as the first option. That’s low percentage to convert immediately to a goal but high percentage that the next score is ours even if it takes multiple inside 50s. 

@WheeloRatings is posting some excellent data. If you look at ball movement, Carlton move the ball slowly and tend to move sideways. Against decent defences that run hard defensively they will struggle to score freely. So far Carlton have played 1 team in the top 6 defensively (Freo), and scored 62 points in perfect conditions.

Add a Carlton defence that is middle of the road (they are improving though) and they have a long way to go and are not our main threat.

IMO the Lions have the second best list talent wise, and on that alone are an obvious challenger and arguably out biggest threat.

But like the Blues they also struggle to stop opposition teams scoring.

In the last 5 games they have given up 27 scoring shots against the Hawks,  21 against the lowly crows, 10 against the Eagles, 24 against the Swans and 25 against the Suns. 

And in the game they are playin now they have conceded 5 goals in the fir 15 minutes. 

I amazed they haven't retooled their defensive system because that sort of defensive weakness is simply not going to get it done against us - and as their finals record under Fagan demonstrates their model is not going to get it done in finals.

They have bugger all chances of containing us to under 75 points and so therefore bugger all chance of beating us.  

Edited May 28, 2022 by binman

[Jaded No More 68,975]

Now Carlton will be even more confident they have the flag in the bag.