Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted

The women's league has made giant steps forward in it's short existence and it concerns me that the MFC are

not  aware of the fact we are falling behind and I put this down to our coaching staff. Coaches learn from their previous coaches and

in the early stages of the competition, coaches from 2nd and 3rd tier sufficed but  now the game needs people of a higher calibre.

Not one of our coaches has experience at a high level of football; for example look at the bio of our development coach

 

"The brother of senior coach Mick, John Stinear works as a Development Coach with Melbourne's forwards as well as a match-day runner.

Stinear has been involved with the club since the inaugural 2017 AFLW season and has a playing background at Southern Football League side, St Kilda City, where he was part of back-to-back Premiership sides in 2009 and 2010."

and you wonder why we can't kick goals.

The team list is probably the best in the competition and deserves better coaching; they need to be taught how to

handball properly; there is only a handful of girls that can use handball effectively

clear congestion with kicks off the ground

stop the opposition getting the ball away when tackled

etc

So for the rest of the year i suggest they get Mark Williams to help out once a week. It couldn't hurt

but it might iron out some problems.

Most of the other clubs have better game plans than us but inferior lists; that is because they are new to the competition

but give them time and they will be better than us.                   

As one of the formation clubs we need to advance instead of stagnating.

We won't win a flag the way things are now. Ever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                           

Posted

I could not agree more 32.

What a shambles.

There's absolutely no method or obvious game plan.  No organisation up forward and, bar a few odd pieces of play, general skills appear to be off the pace required for finals, let alone win one of them.

Half the girls can barely hit a target by hand a few meters away and their general decision making/execution ordinary at best.

Posted

There is no point bringing in all this young talent and then not coaching them properly.

Our last 2 performances have been wretched. The game plan is fundamentally flawed and basic skill execution was very poor. The coach is on borrowed time and I’ll be surprised if he can turn it around. That said i doubt there will be a change in season and I’d prefer if Chocco is left to concentrate on the men’s team.

Post season we need to come up with a better solution as currently we just tack on women coaching responsibilities to an existing coaching role. I know there are difficulties finding a full time coach for what is a part time team but St Kilda have flipped the script and hired a womens team coach who then works with the men during the ALFW off season. I think we should do something similar. In terms of who is out there Bec Goddard would jump at the chance if we could figure out how to make the role work.

Posted

They are really ordinary, few good players but a very ordinary team. Good when its on their terms, but ultimately let you down again and again. 

Sounds familiar.

Posted
3 hours ago, Better days ahead said:

There is no point bringing in all this young talent and then not coaching them properly.

Our last 2 performances have been wretched. The game plan is fundamentally flawed and basic skill execution was very poor. The coach is on borrowed time and I’ll be surprised if he can turn it around. That said i doubt there will be a change in season and I’d prefer if Chocco is left to concentrate on the men’s team.

Post season we need to come up with a better solution as currently we just tack on women coaching responsibilities to an existing coaching role. I know there are difficulties finding a full time coach for what is a part time team but St Kilda have flipped the script and hired a womens team coach who then works with the men during the ALFW off season. I think we should do something similar. In terms of who is out there Bec Goddard would jump at the chance if we could figure out how to make the role work.

Pretty much sums up the entire club over the past 20 years.  

I can't see why if you had a development coach why they wouldn't be used for the entire club.  Or at least have WIlliams mentoring the development coach from the AFLW side.

To me the club identified that the list wasn't good enough and needed to trade out a number of players to inject young talent.  Like any 18/19 year old player it will take a couple of seasons, there are exceptions to this but generally most will take a some time.  Hanks is an example of this, by far our best player yesterday and looks like a natural footballer.

The younger players coming into AFLW now are more skillful and talented then the ones that have been around a few years, especially the code jumpers.

With the players that left the club at the end of the 2020 season, the team was always going to be a middle of table side. 

Saying all that though, to win a game you have to kick goals, 20-30m out no real angle you have to kick them, you aren't going to win many missing 6-7 shots each week from that range.

Posted

Stinear should have been moved on after the third year when we inexplicably missed finals again with the best list in the competition. He hasn't improved the playing group in his time and the game plan is still a dud.

I was all for moving on O'Dea at the time, and probably Newman as well.  The reality is that we hadn't turned over the list enough in the first four seasons, and had very little younger talent coming through. 

It is a real concern that we have not been able to attract established talent to the club (other than Birch, who we arguably overpaid for), but have lost decent players such as Cordner on the way through. Is it coach? Is it location? Is it profile? Is it money?

At some point Richmond and Geelong will get their act together with the resources at their disposal, and we will find ourselves at the absolute bottom of the pack at a time at which the remaining clubs are seeking entry into the competition.

  • Like 1

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 3

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!
×
×
  • Create New...