The women's league has made giant steps forward in it's short existence and it concerns me that the MFC are

not  aware of the fact we are falling behind and I put this down to our coaching staff. Coaches learn from their previous coaches and

in the early stages of the competition, coaches from 2nd and 3rd tier sufficed but  now the game needs people of a higher calibre.

Not one of our coaches has experience at a high level of football; for example look at the bio of our development coach

 

"The brother of senior coach Mick, John Stinear works as a Development Coach with Melbourne's forwards as well as a match-day runner.

Stinear has been involved with the club since the inaugural 2017 AFLW season and has a playing background at Southern Football League side, St Kilda City, where he was part of back-to-back Premiership sides in 2009 and 2010."

and you wonder why we can't kick goals.

The team list is probably the best in the competition and deserves better coaching; they need to be taught how to

handball properly; there is only a handful of girls that can use handball effectively

clear congestion with kicks off the ground

stop the opposition getting the ball away when tackled

etc

So for the rest of the year i suggest they get Mark Williams to help out once a week. It couldn't hurt

but it might iron out some problems.

Most of the other clubs have better game plans than us but inferior lists; that is because they are new to the competition

but give them time and they will be better than us.                   

As one of the formation clubs we need to advance instead of stagnating.

We won't win a flag the way things are now. Ever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                           

I could not agree more 32.

What a shambles.

There's absolutely no method or obvious game plan.  No organisation up forward and, bar a few odd pieces of play, general skills appear to be off the pace required for finals, let alone win one of them.

Half the girls can barely hit a target by hand a few meters away and their general decision making/execution ordinary at best.

There is no point bringing in all this young talent and then not coaching them properly.

Our last 2 performances have been wretched. The game plan is fundamentally flawed and basic skill execution was very poor. The coach is on borrowed time and I’ll be surprised if he can turn it around. That said i doubt there will be a change in season and I’d prefer if Chocco is left to concentrate on the men’s team.

Post season we need to come up with a better solution as currently we just tack on women coaching responsibilities to an existing coaching role. I know there are difficulties finding a full time coach for what is a part time team but St Kilda have flipped the script and hired a womens team coach who then works with the men during the ALFW off season. I think we should do something similar. In terms of who is out there Bec Goddard would jump at the chance if we could figure out how to make the role work.

They are really ordinary, few good players but a very ordinary team. Good when its on their terms, but ultimately let you down again and again. 

Sounds familiar.

3 hours ago, Better days ahead said:

There is no point bringing in all this young talent and then not coaching them properly.

Our last 2 performances have been wretched. The game plan is fundamentally flawed and basic skill execution was very poor. The coach is on borrowed time and I’ll be surprised if he can turn it around. That said i doubt there will be a change in season and I’d prefer if Chocco is left to concentrate on the men’s team.

Post season we need to come up with a better solution as currently we just tack on women coaching responsibilities to an existing coaching role. I know there are difficulties finding a full time coach for what is a part time team but St Kilda have flipped the script and hired a womens team coach who then works with the men during the ALFW off season. I think we should do something similar. In terms of who is out there Bec Goddard would jump at the chance if we could figure out how to make the role work.

Pretty much sums up the entire club over the past 20 years.  

I can't see why if you had a development coach why they wouldn't be used for the entire club.  Or at least have WIlliams mentoring the development coach from the AFLW side.

To me the club identified that the list wasn't good enough and needed to trade out a number of players to inject young talent.  Like any 18/19 year old player it will take a couple of seasons, there are exceptions to this but generally most will take a some time.  Hanks is an example of this, by far our best player yesterday and looks like a natural footballer.

The younger players coming into AFLW now are more skillful and talented then the ones that have been around a few years, especially the code jumpers.

With the players that left the club at the end of the 2020 season, the team was always going to be a middle of table side. 

Saying all that though, to win a game you have to kick goals, 20-30m out no real angle you have to kick them, you aren't going to win many missing 6-7 shots each week from that range.

Stinear should have been moved on after the third year when we inexplicably missed finals again with the best list in the competition. He hasn't improved the playing group in his time and the game plan is still a dud.

I was all for moving on O'Dea at the time, and probably Newman as well.  The reality is that we hadn't turned over the list enough in the first four seasons, and had very little younger talent coming through. 

It is a real concern that we have not been able to attract established talent to the club (other than Birch, who we arguably overpaid for), but have lost decent players such as Cordner on the way through. Is it coach? Is it location? Is it profile? Is it money?

At some point Richmond and Geelong will get their act together with the resources at their disposal, and we will find ourselves at the absolute bottom of the pack at a time at which the remaining clubs are seeking entry into the competition.