Garry Lyon's comments (ON THE COUCH)

[Altona-demon 321]

Interested in what Demonlanders made of Garry's comments last night around having great individuals on paper but just a collectively average team.  I thought this was an interesting insight - and an indictment on the coaching department to be honest. 

I think people look at our list, and it is good, but the lack of an identifiable (and changeable) system of play is a telling fault in our current club.  We don't work out other teams, other teams constantly work us out and we just react.  It's horrendous. 

Goody talks about becoming collectively ruthless and unconditional.  He's failed at that. This team collectively is a joke - I think back to the way Port Adelaide laughed at us.  I think the individual effort is good, but it's not cohesive (look at the way our midfield bulls are bees to the honey pot - or the way Fritsch almost spoiled Vandenburg for that mark in the fourth quarter last night, or the way Lever or May regularly spoils other defenders contests leaving a free run out the back).  They run around like headless chickens, because there is no head.  No leaders on field or off. 

I think while Gawn is a "nice guy" - I don't think he's a particularly competitive or even elite leader.  If this collective culture is going to change, there needs to be some heavy decisions made around the collective aspirations of the club.  Which may or may not involve some difficult decisions about individual's futures (Gawn, Viney, Oliver, Brayshaw, Petracca, Fritsch, Goodwin, Mahoney, Richardson, Pert)

[Lord Travis 10,730]

As grumpy and annoying as Garry can be, he is 100% right with his comments about the MFC. He is a frustrated Melbourne supporter like the rest of us. The difference is he has a platform to voice his frustrations. At this point blind Freddie can point out what the club has been unable to fix for longer than I've been alive. Everyone but the coaches are seemingly aware of our issues.

We have good players on paper who don't play well together due to poor coaching, systems and development.

We still lack leadership at every level, from board to coaches to players.

There is no success or premiership in the foreseeable future for the club until we address the leadership issue that have plagued us for decades.

[3183 Dee 2,853]

Yes - I’ve always found it hard to listen to Garry, as he always has such a downer on Melbourne. However, after last night, I see that he is right. He didn’t get carried away after our 3 wins against poorer/weakened teams, and he was right.

This team makes things so hard for themselves - it is such a stressful slog, rather than fun.

[DemonOX 8,791]

6 hours ago, Altona-demon said:

Interested in what Demonlanders made of Garry's comments last night around having great individuals on paper but just a collectively average team.  I thought this was an interesting insight - and an indictment on the coaching department to be honest. 

I think people look at our list, and it is good, but the lack of an identifiable (and changeable) system of play is a telling fault in our current club.  We don't work out other teams, other teams constantly work us out and we just react.  It's horrendous. 

Goody talks about becoming collectively ruthless and unconditional.  He's failed at that. This team collectively is a joke - I think back to the way Port Adelaide laughed at us.  I think the individual effort is good, but it's not cohesive (look at the way our midfield bulls are bees to the honey pot - or the way Fritsch almost spoiled Vandenburg for that mark in the fourth quarter last night, or the way Lever or May regularly spoils other defenders contests leaving a free run out the back).  They run around like headless chickens, because there is no head.  No leaders on field or off. 

I think while Gawn is a "nice guy" - I don't think he's a particularly competitive or even elite leader.  If this collective culture is going to change, there needs to be some heavy decisions made around the collective aspirations of the club.  Which may or may not involve some difficult decisions about individual's futures (Gawn, Viney, Oliver, Brayshaw, Petracca, Fritsch, Goodwin, Mahoney, Richardson, Pert)

Maybe that’s because goody plays favourites and the players know this and as a result there’s not much team play. Could be part of the problem along with others. 

Not dropping Milkshake and them making him stand in captain was a master stoke for example.

Edited September 8, 2020 by DemonOX

[dazzledavey36 54,922]

Where are the socks that complained that Garry was too negative? He's been right all along, dating back to early last year where he called it early on the season.

Having Garry in media is great platform for us Melbourne supporters because he calls it exactly like all us frustrated are feeling.

More of this thanks Gazman.

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,129]

31 minutes ago, 3183 Dee said:

Yes - I’ve always found it hard to listen to Garry, as he always has such a downer on Melbourne. However, after last night, I see that he is right. He didn’t get carried away after our 3 wins against poorer/weakened teams, and he was right.

This team makes things so hard for themselves - it is such a stressful slog, rather than fun.

I've been looking for somewhere to acknowledge the relatively honest, perceptive, enlightening and raw analysis Christian Petracca did in his post-match (oh that Goodwin would speak that way!) Tracc is with you, 3183, at 1:30-1:35 in the interview. Of the apparent many issues with the coaching, is fun-sucking another?