6 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

It's in answer to your incorrect posts

Joel Smith developed OP nothing to with injury

Hibberd puts his body on the line and unfortunately he dislodged the plate, happened to me with same injury.

 

So you should agree that Hibberd came back too early.

And OP for Smith? I'm not even going to ask for your source because 9 out of 10 times your 'source' feeds you [censored].

6 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

It's in answer to your incorrect posts

Joel Smith developed OP nothing to with injury

Hibberd puts his body on the line and unfortunately he dislodged the plate, happened to me with same injury.

 

So when did he develop the OP mate? Before the game? Or may after the game after he could barely walk? Why was he limping heavily in the 3rd and 4th quarter?

Intrigued to hear this..

6 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

It's in answer to your incorrect posts

Joel Smith developed OP nothing to with injury

OP is an overuse injury. 

Edited June 28, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

39 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

So when did he develop the OP mate? Before the game? Or may after the game after he could barely walk? Why was he limping heavily in the 3rd and 4th quarter?

Intrigued to hear this..

"Osteitis Pubis is a common cause of chronic groin pain in the football codes. It is an overuse injury. That is, it is caused by repeated trauma rather than a specific incident. However, it is not uncommon for a specific incident to trigger the symptoms."

https://physioworks.com.au/injuries-conditions-1/osteitis-pubis

13 hours ago, The Chazz said:

And OP for Smith? I'm not even going to ask for your source because 9 out of 10 times your 'source' feeds you [censored].

To be fair, Joel himself was quoted saying it was OP to supporters at a pre-game function earlier in the year.

 

I understand the frustration that goes with players like Smith and AVB getting injuries and not playing this year and certainly there always seems a need on this site to find a scapegoat.  But don't people understand the stupidity of diagnosing a players injuries from a distance with little or no knowledge of the medical history of the player or the sequence of events leading to an injury.

Do people really think that it's all Dave Misson's fault?  Do you think that after over a decade in his role he would make a blatantly stupid decision  about a players health and risk a long term injury for a JLT match?

I know many here blame Misson and think he's stupid but to me the boot is firmly on the other foot.

28 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

I understand the frustration that goes with players like Smith and AVB getting injuries and not playing this year and certainly there always seems a need on this site to find a scapegoat.  But don't people understand the stupidity of diagnosing a players injuries from a distance with little or no knowledge of the medical history of the player or the sequence of events leading to an injury.

Do people really think that it's all Dave Misson's fault?  Do you think that after over a decade in his role he would make a blatantly stupid decision  about a players health and risk a long term injury for a JLT match?

I know many here blame Misson and think he's stupid but to me the boot is firmly on the other foot.

The Smith decision is undeniable. It was pathetic management by everyone involved in selecting the team. We easily could have had players geared up ready to go but we elected to go with a smaller team than we were allowed on the day. To manage every other players loads they needed Smith to be on for rotations. It was amateur.

3 hours ago, Baghdad Bob said:

Do you think that after over a decade in his role he would make a blatantly stupid decision  about a players health and risk a long term injury for a JLT match?

Yes, it's bizarre. Most here wouldn't even hire a plumber without being assured that they knew what they were doing. Yet at an elite sports club, with huge $$$ on the line, we're supposed to believe that the highly paid, highly specialised and highly credential medical and fitness staff we work with don't know what they're doing.

(Though just to say, it's the doctors who rule on medical conditions and injuries, not the fitness staff.)

 

3 hours ago, Watts the matter said:

It was pathetic management by everyone involved in selecting the team.

Hindsight bias.

30 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Hindsight bias.

Do you want me to find my post questioning it at the time? 

57 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Yes, it's bizarre. Most here wouldn't even hire a plumber without being assured that they knew what they were doing. Yet at an elite sports club, with huge $$$ on the line, we're supposed to believe that the highly paid, highly specialised and highly credential medical and fitness staff we work with don't know what they're doing.

(Though just to say, it's the doctors who rule on medical conditions and injuries, not the fitness staff.)

 

So you are saying Smith did no further damage by coming back on?

Maybe this will refresh your memory.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-20/ankle-problem-forces-tough-demons-mid-out-of-port-clash

 

Edited June 29, 20195 yr by Watts the matter
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1 hour ago, Watts the matter said:

So you are saying Smith did no further damage by coming back on?

Maybe this will refresh your memory.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-20/ankle-problem-forces-tough-demons-mid-out-of-port-clash

"It certainly wasn't going to change the outcome (of the diagnosis)"

1 minute ago, bing181 said:

"It certainly wasn't going to change the outcome (of the diagnosis)"

Of course he's going deflect the responsibility from himself. Just the usual fluff take from Goodwin. Bit like his "best 6 disposal game ever" fluff about Weideman. 

Can't believe some one here actually think the club didn't make a poor decision on the Smith debacle.

You probably think the club sending Melksham out on an already broken foot against GC was the right decision too..

1 minute ago, bing181 said:

"It certainly wasn't going to change the outcome (of the diagnosis)"

I'll take the journalist over Goodwin any day of the week in this situation. If you can't play again for 6 weeks because of an injury which isn't going to require surgery and you are just going to let rest and then re-load, why would you put him back on. 

Smith, meanwhile, could be sidelined for up to six weeks after a groin injury, which he played through in the club's final JLT Community Series against Brisbane to assist with rotations, worsened.

The clubs decision was for him to rest and let the groin heal, I fail to see how playing more football assists with this. 

When you add in that this was a meaningless JLT game and we elected not to play extra players which we were entitled to, it is amateur.