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21 hours ago, Smokey said:

Pretty sad state of affairs when people take issue with the club taking a stand against bullying. I’ll go ahead and remove myself from this convo now. 

Smokey it's a great stance no doubt. My comment about players hardening up was a bit harsh. I just wish the club would concentrate on the year ahead and not get distracted on matters that they cannot solve. 

 

For those who have missed the point of the banner, the players intend to smash through all the personally insulting tweets they have received in their time. It is an attempt to show cyberbullying is unacceptable and that MFC don't accept this. Just as the Eagles came out against the racist comments made about Liam Ryan and I expect another club to make a statement in the coming weeks as well. On the back of this the club is raising money for the Reach Foundation who for 25 years has nurtured and cared for kids who have been dealt harshly by society, don't fit in or have been bullied. MFC is proud of the role Jimmy played in this and our ongoing support.

It is no wonder players are advised not to read social media.

I to, go to the footy to see Melbourne win but I have never accused a player of not trying. They may lack ability at times, can be carrying an injury or having an off day and occasionally they get beaten by a better opponent. It is ok to be critical but there is a line that shouldn't be crossed by getting personal or bullying.

4 hours ago, P-man said:

I’m not going further down this rabbit hole so this will be my last post on it.

Trying to equate actual cyber bullying with calling a celebrity a [censored] on Twitter is a false equivalency. It’s argubaly insulting to those who suffer from proper cyber bullying. I wouldn’t go quite that far. I just think it’s silly.

Go and watch “celebrities read mean tweets” on the Jimmy Kimmel show. They read out the ridiculous things said about them on twitter and laugh it off, often poking fun at both themselves and the people who write this stuff. That’s how you deal with it, in my opinion.  Not solemnly looking down the barrel of the camera and tearing up a sheet of paper.

Agin, if this was racist, or sexist, that’s different, but do you seriously think Nathan Jones gives a rat’s [censored] about someone calling him a “dirty dog”? He could barely keep a straight face reading it out.

Nice idea. Poor execution.

Completely get your perspective about the difference in levels between full blown cyber bullying and what would more accuratly be described as character assassination or harassment, but personally, I think acceptance of one somewhat opens the door to the other.

Why should socioty accept that it's ok to openly and publicly degrade others just because it's electronically communicated and not in person or on a more regulated form of media.

I think the point of the MFC campaign is to encourage people to self regulate, but I think we also need to stand up and demand that the social media giants lift their game as well.  Far from encouraging civil interactions between their users, the social media giants actually quite actively tolerate a high level of anti-social behavior on their platforms, because it often results in higher levels of interaction with their 'service', which they can then use to sell to their advertisers.  It's a rotten unethical business model which needs to be rectified.

Edited by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

 
On 4/3/2019 at 8:02 PM, Ethan Tremblay said:

I’d actually prefer the AFL and clubs just concentrated on the game rather than attempting to be a moral compass for all of us. 

I agree.

The VFL were far better at it.

Freddy Cook is still my mentor.

Interesting we have the 'reach' game tonight...  and against the bummers where Dean Bailey played, and all this tanking garbage comes back up again.

Has this eventuated Via Essenscum somehow ?


Apparently one of the tweets mentioned on the banner was “What the actual f*** was that kick anyway?”

I don't see how this is bullying. As long as it's not directed at the person and focuses on the action or play, I fail to see how professional footballers should be exempt from their performance being critiqued.

 

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On 4/6/2019 at 3:28 AM, Watts the matter said:

Apparently one of the tweets mentioned on the banner was “What the actual f*** was that kick anyway?”

I don't see how this is bullying. As long as it's not directed at the person and focuses on the action or play, I fail to see how professional footballers should be exempt from their performance being critiqued.

 

And thats why we dish up crap like the game today and why we will never win a flag.

The club is still soft from top to bottom, it always has been and it always will be.

 

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