Just now, Biffen said:

I think I've acknowledged previously that the Middle East is the cradle of civilisation in regards to Sumeria,Persia,Babylon,Mesopotamia or however far back you go.

Gotta point?

yeah my point is don't say it's a British or Greek invention when you know that to be factually incorrect.

3 hours ago, Biffen said:

Humanity has advanced by all measure due to Western civilisation.From life expectancy to agriculture to disease prevention to road building .

 

 

4 minutes ago, Biffen said:

I think I've acknowledged previously that the Middle East is the cradle of civilisation in regards to Sumeria,Persia,Babylon,Mesopotamia or however far back you go.

 

 

You don't see a conflict here Biff?

Writing and laws developed by non-Western cultures, but "Humanity has advanced by all measure due to Western civilisation"

Please.

8 minutes ago, Choke said:

yeah my point is don't say it's a British or Greek invention when you know that to be factually incorrect.

In terms of using those ideas internationally then my point stands.

Im not trying to prove the English invented the wheel.

You keep shifting your point around but good for you and your social conscience .

For me to extol the virtues of Western civilisation does not make me anti Aboriginal either .

I wasn't born in 1770.

 

1 minute ago, Biffen said:

In terms of using those ideas internationally then my point stands.

Im not trying to prove the English invented the wheel.

You keep shifting your point around but good for you and your social conscience .

For me to extol the virtues of Western civilisation does not make me anti Aboriginal either .

I wasn't born in 1770.

 

You're the one that's shifting Biff.

You made assertions that were factually incorrect, then attempted to claim that you know it all along.

I think I've been quite consistent in my remarks. I suppose those someone who's contradicted themselves so blatantly as you have would have trouble understanding what 'consistent' actually means.

I agree that extolling the virtues of Western civilisation doesn't make you racist.

However, you seem blinded by those virtues to the point where you can't see any of its flaws or mistakes.

5 minutes ago, Choke said:

 

 

You don't see a conflict here Biff?

Writing and laws developed by non-Western cultures, but "Humanity has advanced by all measure due to Western civilisation"

Please.

No confict at all.

Britons were speaking French in the 1200s.

The French spoke Latin.

The Italians spoke Greek.

So what.?

Do you think the British Empire was unusually cruel and destructive?If so how and compared to who?

There is no confict in pointing out that Sumeria invented maths and Newton advanced it.

What we know to be Greek may have been Phoenician .

Look through an old thread and I mentioned all this.Peter Dutton I believe.

Im not trying to tell you England invented language,the wheel or astrology.

Settle down .

You didn't win any non- racist points .

Sorry.

1 minute ago, Biffen said:

 

Sorry.

You are not!  What star sign are you, Biff? You come across as a chained goat who keeps circling the stake he's chained himself to.

I have nothing more to add. I can't make you see what's right in front of you, Biff.

Have a good weekend.

9 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

Dieter

This thread is about the Manchester bombing. Like alot of recent terrorism the perpetrators did so in the name of Islam. 

You seem incapable of discussing Islam without bringing up Christianity.

If you want to discuss George Pell, Catholicism, Christianity or white supremacy start a thread on it or find one that already exists and contribute to it.

 

 

Wrecker, don't get me stated on George Pell!

I reckon he was the Manchester Bomber anyway...

45 minutes ago, Choke said:

I have nothing more to add. I can't make you see what's right in front of you, Biff.

Have a good weekend.

You too.

Best of British.

3 hours ago, Biffen said:

 

Best of British.

And may I ask wass ist das? Ein pudding from Yorkshire perhaps, a beer swilling whinger who still expects the colonies to pay for his beer, ah, yes, I have it now, the best of British is waging war on defenseless natives, the kind Churchill loved to see bombed to oblivion by napalm.

Or, is it cricket? 

Dunno, cos they're pretty useless at it.

It took a German, Shane Warne, to demonstrate that.

It certainly ain't football unless you have a Russian linesman to pervert the laws of soccer, as happened in the World Cup Final in 1966.

Between you and I, Mr Biff, what astounds me is that most of the English speaking world is of German stock. The Poms are Anglo Saxons, the USA is apparently genetically 38% German, way more than the next gene pool and all I can deduce from that is that the Germans have got a bloody lot to answer for.

10 hours ago, dieter said:

And may I ask wass ist das? Ein pudding from Yorkshire perhaps, a beer swilling whinger who still expects the colonies to pay for his beer, ah, yes, I have it now, the best of British is waging war on defenseless natives, the kind Churchill loved to see bombed to oblivion by napalm.

Or, is it cricket? 

Dunno, cos they're pretty useless at it.

It took a German, Shane Warne, to demonstrate that.

It certainly ain't football unless you have a Russian linesman to pervert the laws of soccer, as happened in the World Cup Final in 1966.

Between you and I, Mr Biff, what astounds me is that most of the English speaking world is of German stock. The Poms are Anglo Saxons, the USA is apparently genetically 38% German, way more than the next gene pool and all I can deduce from that is that the Germans have got a bloody lot to answer for.

Without Germans we wouldn't have Bud,Schlitz and all those other woeful beers.Wurlitzer organs...I could go on.

The Germans aren't evil- you've been trained to believe they are.

The astoundingly low self esteem of Germans is known world wide.Except perhaps in the case of  Herr Warne.

They now think any kind of national pride is evil.

Edited June 2, 20178 yr by Biffen

We must be careful not to jump to conclusions about this latest London Bridge attack(the second this year).

Our conclusions must not be jumped to.

They must be carefully managed by others more qualified than us to form those conclusions.

 

On 02/06/2017 at 5:01 PM, Choke said:

 

 

You don't see a conflict here Biff?

Writing and laws developed by non-Western cultures, but "Humanity has advanced by all measure due to Western civilisation"

Please.

You argue over pathetic semantics ,misquote and deceive like a trained journalist.

Meanwhile Dieter brings up plainly false statistics actually created to confuse the issue of terrorism with white supremacy.

You are both a pair of weak willed apologist-attacking the messenger(me) while you stick your fingers in your ears saying "I'm not Listening".

The point you rammed home about the creation of law was irrelevant Choker-I was discussing Law records and Extensive Public documentation -the use of a written text .(Archives)

The law known and respected internationally was or is British in essence and practise.not Egyptian.No Conflict in noting this whatsoever.

You run around like a 2 year-old with "Biff said the poms invented law". Twit.

Cultural cringe is at the core of your being.

If you can't see the benefits of the rule of law, systems,admin and health western culture has bought you must be blind.

The alternative is to go back to the dark ages which is where you like to sit intellectually on this.

Too P!ss weak to admit there is a right and a wrong in this issue.

Or maybe you are happy for people to let bombs rip in a secular modern society .

Worse the fence sitting-you take taqiya to new levels and I wonder if you even know why you do it.

 

 

 

Edited June 3, 20178 yr by Biffen

On 02/06/2017 at 4:20 PM, dieter said:

Well put, Mr Choke.

I recall the Rector at Rupertswood telling us the great advantage of having Britain as its Colonial Master was the British left great infrastructure behind. I put my hand up and said, Yes, that was so because they could plunder more efficiently.

being rupertswood i can only imagine what your punishment would have been for such impertinence 

On 02/06/2017 at 9:29 PM, dieter said:

 

Between you and I, Mr Biff, what astounds me is that most of the English speaking world is of German stock. The Poms are Anglo Saxons, the USA is apparently genetically 38% German, way more than the next gene pool and all I can deduce from that is that the Germans have got a bloody lot to answer for.

nice try but no cigar, diets

the poms are not anglo-saxon. the predominant dna is of the original british people there when the anglo saxons arrived. there are plenty of studies proving this

as for the 38% germanicity in the us, this just means that 38% of americans have some german blood, not that 38% of americans are predominately german

15 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

nice try but no cigar, diets

the poms are not anglo-saxon. the predominant dna is of the original british people there when the anglo saxons arrived. there are plenty of studies proving this

as for the 38% germanicity in the us, this just means that 38% of americans have some german blood, not that 38% of americans are predominately german

Please don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

3 hours ago, Biffen said:

 

Or maybe you are happy for people to let bombs rip in a secular modern society .

Worse the fence sitting-you take taqiya to new levels and I wonder if you even know why you do it.

 

 

 

You don't seem to mind the bombs going off elsewhere, do you? Like Iraq, Vietnam, it's like you think the West has a god given right to just bomb the bejesus out of anyone they like, just get the likes of The Colon to lie to the United Nations about WMD, invent the Tonkin incident etc etc etc etc.

So that's Civilized, I presume.

Edited June 4, 20178 yr by dieter

30 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

being rupertswood i can only imagine what your punishment would have been for such impertinence 

The Day boys mostly missed out on the warm cuddly stuff, we just had the crappers belted out of us.

6 minutes ago, dieter said:

The Day boys mostly missed out on the warm cuddly stuff, we just had the crappers belted out of us.

uncle bitters would no doubt be gratified to hear that

14 minutes ago, dieter said:

You don't seem to mind the bombs going off elsewhere, do you? Like Iraq, Vietnam, it's like you think the West has a god given right to just bomb the bejesus out of anyone they like, just get the likes of The Colon to lie to the United Nations about WMD, invent the Tonkin incident etc etc etc etc.

So that's Civilized, I presume.

Iraq and Vietnam were wars declared by Nations against kleptocratic communist and socialist scum.

This is religious scum encouraging youth to kill innocent people.

But your heart goes out to Iraq naturally.

Islamists love moronic left-wing appeasers.  They'd smile and thank you just before slitting your throat. 

As for the moderates ?  How moderate are they?  It's hard to know.  Most don't condemn violence to the kafir because most are well aware the definition of Islam is to dominate.  Unbelievers must submit to Islam.

Over 80% of middle eastern Muslims believe in death to apostates.  Over 80% believe in stoning for adulterers.  A young girl was recently put to death for being raped. 

Islam is the most vile and insidious political doctrine in the world.  Why any western civilisation would knowingly import more people from these backwater shitholes beggars belief.  Most Muslims don't enrich the country they go to.  They don't want to befriend you.  They don't want to break bread and drink wine with you.  And the odd ones that do are clearly not practising Muslims.  

Child brides, stonings, veiling, death or imprisonment to gays, female genital mutilation, honour killings, etc.  What a culturally enriched doctrine.  Some drink camel [censored].  And did you know you can shag a goat as long as you kill it afterwards ?   Presumably so you don't have the shame of ever having to look them in the eye again. 

1400 years of breeding with your 13 year old first cousin will do that. 

Edited June 4, 20178 yr by ProDee

Senator Sam Dastyari nearly caught in todays London attack.

Unelected Senate swill,sitting with British Labour (whoever is still left) no doubt discussing their political future or lack thereof when a real terrorist attack occurs as a DIRECT result of Lefty immigration policy.

No acts of bravery from Sam-as expected.

 

2 hours ago, Biffen said:

Iraq and Vietnam were wars declared by Nations against kleptocratic communist and socialist scum.

This is religious scum encouraging youth to kill innocent people.

But your heart goes out to Iraq naturally.

Tut tut, Mr Biff. Here come de judge!!!

2 hours ago, Biffen said:

Senator Sam Dastyari nearly caught in todays London attack.

Unelected Senate swill,sitting with British Labour (whoever is still left) no doubt discussing their political future or lack thereof when a real terrorist attack occurs as a DIRECT result of Lefty immigration policy.

No acts of bravery from Sam-as expected.

 

Why "Lefty"?

 

Immigration has been supported by both parties for decades. If anything, the right-wing parties - the parties of big business  - support it more because it enables them to keep wages down while the profits go up.

 

Comment about Dastyari a bit below the belt.

3 hours ago, Jara said:

Why "Lefty"?

 

Immigration has been supported by both parties for decades. If anything, the right-wing parties - the parties of big business  - support it more because it enables them to keep wages down while the profits go up.

 

Comment about Dastyari a bit below the belt.

Not for a branch stacker that claims to be a Muslim when it suits him.

I read British press (nearly all of it,good and bad).Corbyn is done there.Hes a corpse with a copy of the communist manifesto.

Dastyari even tries to get political mileage from an adventure park disaster.

On Q and A he was a self promoting [censored].

In this situation his hypocrisy is fully played out.

Zero respect.