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8 minutes ago, binman said:

Close. Box up our horses and again we would have snagged the first four

Thats 2 weeks in a row youve picked the winner with your plc bets.......better promote you back up the order.

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    32 minutes ago, Macca said:

    Too late for me

    Perhaps we had better make a cut-off time Macca?  People often have to do things on a Sat arvo.

    What about 12pm Sat in future?

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    1 minute ago, Wadda We Sing said:

    Perhaps we had better make a cut-off time Macca?  People often have to do things on a Sat arvo.

    What about 12pm Sat in future?

    Even 12pm is cutting it fine ... I often work on a Saturday and I often don't have time to access the internet.  Others would have similar issues including those who only read the thread but might like our tips.

    The earlier the better works ... 12pm can easily become 1pm or 2pm.

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    16 minutes ago, Macca said:

    Even 12pm is cutting it fine ... I often work on a Saturday and I often don't have time to access the internet.  Others would have similar issues including those who only read the thread but might like our tips.

    The earlier the better works ... 12pm can easily become 1pm or 2pm.

    Ok. But i some also like to get the form done on a Sat morn. Maybe trifectas by Friday night and Best bets by 11am Sat?

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    10 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

    Ok. But i some also like to get the form done on a Sat morn. Maybe trifectas by Friday night and Best bets by 11am Sat?

    I just reckon the earlier the better Wadda ... having time constraints on the internet is tricky at the best of times. 

    We'll see how we go next week ... I've got my own back up plan as you've seen above. 

    Ended up getting the first4 anyway so I might be better off flying solo!! ?

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    The Le Romain/Impending quinella was paying 9-2 ... and it was jumping out at us too.

    And the trifecta paid ok all things considered.  a win is a win.  The First4 the same ... 2-4-6-6 worked again. 

    I reckon I have finally found a system that can work.

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    25 minutes ago, Macca said:

    I just reckon the earlier the better Wadda ... having time constraints on the internet is tricky at the best of times. 

    We'll see how we go next week ... I've got my own back up plan as you've seen above. 

    Ended up getting the first4 anyway so I might be better off flying solo!! ?

    Yes i agree the earlier the better. The only thing with Sat morning is we get the scratchings which i think can cause chaos with trifectas

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    5 hours ago, Wadda We Sing said:

    Ok sorry about the late pick, but i wanted to cover all bases. Its a 2 horse race between Andaz and Fifty Stars. Andaz is the better value and the quinella may in fact be the better bet. Good luck fellas.

    Best Bets:

    Doomben Race 5 No.3 Zousain $3.10

    Randwick Race 6  No.3  Live and Free  $2.50

    Sandown Race 9 No. Andaz $5.50

    $42.62 for your dollar.

    Well we got a 1st and two  2nds. Well done Macca. We still do ok really.

    I must say i wanted to make that quinella with Andaz and Fifty Stars my Best Bet because i couldnt split them and there was nothing else in the race. Paid $5.50 I wasnt sure if that was flaunting the rules?! Easy to say in hindsight tho and PL big time. Well i took it anyway. :)

    Andaz is a Black Booker. Will win its next race.

     

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    Interesting days racing ... have only watched the replays but the controversy with the track conditions at Doomben spoiled things a bit.  The highlights being the classic finishes in the Kingsford-Smith & the Qld Oaks.  Youngstar looks a horse of the future whilst Impending & Le Romain are 2 very classy racehorses. 

    And the 'A Day at the Races' crew landed a trifecta at last (albeit not a big one)

    Moving on ... with the big overseas races I tend to go each-way on a horse in the Group 1's ... the pools for the exotics are way too small but each-way is an option for some value runners.  However,  I often tune in just to watch the best go around. 

    Might have a go at a 2-4-6-6  First4 in the Sha Tin Vase though.  Small field but some quite familiar horses are in the race.  

    Also,  I like Gustav Klimt each-way in 2000 Guineas,  Soliloquy each-way in 1000 Guineas and Pakistan Star/Exultant in an exacta in the Chater Cup at Sha Tin. 

    Tonight

    The Curragh - Irish 2000 Guineas  1600m  $620k  Group 1  1.10am

    Sunday

    Sha Tin - The Sha Tin Vase 1200m  $500k  Group 3 4.00pm

    Sha Tin - Standard Chartered Chater Cup  2400m  $2Million  Group 1  6.05pm

    Sunday Night/Monday Morning

    The Curragh - Irish Gold Cup  2100m  $470k  Group 1  11.25pm

    The Curragh - Irish 1000 Guineas  1600m  $620k  Group 1  1.10am

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    Trifecta Strike Rate

    2 from 7  < $48.90 >

    Best Bet Strike Rate

    55:  26 - 13 - 2

    Australian Group and Listed Races

    Just a heads up for next week whilst I'm here ... there are no G1 races next weekend but there are a few races that should be good betting races and thus,  might suit our trifecta/first4 combinations. 

    Specifically ...

     

     

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    5 hours ago, Wadda We Sing said:

    Well we got a 1st and two  2nds. Well done Macca. We still do ok really.

    I must say i wanted to make that quinella with Andaz and Fifty Stars my Best Bet because i couldnt split them and there was nothing else in the race. Paid $5.50 I wasnt sure if that was flaunting the rules?! Easy to say in hindsight tho and PL big time. Well i took it anyway. :)

    Andaz is a Black Booker. Will win its next race.

     

    I reckon anything goes with a best bet Wadda ... whatever takes your fancy. 

    For instance ... sometimes an each-way chance jumps out at you.  You just know that each-way chance is going to get into the finish but it may not win. 

    Ultimately we have the choice of sorting it all out as individuals to suit our betting strategy. 

    I'm swinging over to 2-4-6-6 First4's in smaller fields in sprint races just because that suits my style.  And so far, it's working.

    So,  in essence,  I play around with our trifecta picks and always have a back-up plan if the tips come in late. 

    I like both the best bet and trifecta/first4 systems we have going.  It's always good to get input from elsewhere. 

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    Merchant Navy wins a G2 level sprint at the Curragh (first up) for Aiden O'Brien

    Very impressive - watch here

    Royal Ascot in mid June next up for the 3yo colt.

     

     

     

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    @Dee Zephyr  @Wadda We Sing  @binman 

    Picked out 3 possible trifecta races for Saturday ... take a look at your leisure fellas.

    'Pounamu' is back after one trial and is up against a few decent types in the Belmont Sprint (Ascot WA)  Drawn the outside alley too - which could easily suit considering how the horse likes to swoop late. 

    I've marked the Belmont Sprint on top because the Sunshine Coast is currently rated as a Heavy10 and also,  I'm biased towards the Pounamu Race! ?

    It's also worth noting that we've had success with the trifecta twice - once over the 1400m and the other over 1350m. 

    Ascot  Belmont Sprint  1400m  Group 3  150k

    Sunshine Coast  PJ O'Shea Stakes  2200m  Group 2  200k

    Sunshine Coast  Moreton Cup  1200m  Group 2  175K

                     

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    13 hours ago, Macca said:

    @Dee Zephyr  @Wadda We Sing  @binman 

    Picked out 3 possible trifecta races for Saturday ... take a look at your leisure fellas.

    'Pounamu' is back after one trial and is up against a few decent types in the Belmont Sprint (Ascot WA)  Drawn the outside alley too - which could easily suit considering how the horse likes to swoop late. 

    I've marked the Belmont Sprint on top because the Sunshine Coast is currently rated as a Heavy10 and also,  I'm biased towards the Pounamu Race! ?

    It's also worth noting that we've had success with the trifecta twice - once over the 1400m and the other over 1350m. 

    Ascot  Belmont Sprint  1400m  Group 3  150k

    Sunshine Coast  PJ O'Shea Stakes  2200m  Group 2  200k

    Sunshine Coast  Moreton Cup  1200m  Group 2  175K

                     

    G’day Macca. Like the Village People and Pet Shop Boys.....

    ” Go West” for me.

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    10 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

    G’day Macca. Like the Village People and Pet Shop Boys.....

    ” Go West” for me.

    In all seriousness the Belmont Sprint is the pick of the 3 races anyway ... it's a good betting race in terms of there being 3 or 4 genuine chances to win whilst another 3 or 4 could get into the placegetters or the First4. 

    Plus,  the race is on a couple of hours after the footy so it won't serve as a distraction and it could be a win/win/win for us (Demons win and we land the trifecta and the First4)

    No prizes for guessing which horse I'm going to nominate either ?

    Anyway,  we'll wait for a bit to see what BM & Wadda want to lean towards. 

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    7 minutes ago, Macca said:

    In all seriousness the Belmont Sprint is the pick of the 3 races anyway ... it's a good betting race in terms of there being 3 or 4 genuine chances to win whilst another 3 or 4 could get into the placegetters or the First4. 

    Plus,  the race is on a couple of hours after the footy so it won't serve as a distraction and it could be a win/win/win for us (Demons win and we land the trifecta and the First4)

    No prizes for guessing which horse I'm going to nominate either ?

    Anyway,  we'll wait for a bit to see what BM & Wadda want to lean towards. 

    Hey ho, count me in. Yep im fine with Belmont. We already know who Macca is going to pick so ill have a look and report back.

     

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    6 minutes ago, Macca said:

    In all seriousness the Belmont Sprint is the pick of the 3 races anyway ... it's a good betting race in terms of there being 3 or 4 genuine chances to win whilst another 3 or 4 could get into the placegetters or the First4. 

    Plus,  the race is on a couple of hours after the footy so it won't serve as a distraction and it could be a win/win/win for us (Demons win and we land the trifecta and the First4)

    No prizes for guessing which horse I'm going to nominate either ?

    Anyway,  we'll wait for a bit to see what BM & Wadda want to lean towards. 

    Haven't looked at the races but my preference would always be Ascot. As i have said before i'm wary of races held at tracks like Sunshine Coast. Ascot on the other hand is fair track that is always in great shape and all horses have their chance - even if they have not raced there before or often. Plus Darren Mcaulley is the best race caller in the county in my humble

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    It's settled then ...

    Ascot  Race 7  Belmont Sprint  1400m  Group 3  150k  Sat  6.15pm

    • W/2/3  ????????
    • W/2/3  ????????
    • W/2/3  Pounamu
    • 2/3       ????????
    • 2/3       ????????

    I've put in my tip so it's over to @Dee Zephyr  to lead things off then @Wadda We Sing  then @binman  to finish things off with a couple of placegetters. 

    Good luck Gentlemen!

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    12 minutes ago, Macca said:

    It's settled then ...

    Ascot  Race 7  Belmont Sprint  1400m  Group 3  150k  Sat  6.15pm

    • W/2/3  ????????
    • W/2/3  ????????
    • W/2/3  Pounamu
    • 2/3       ????????
    • 2/3       ????????

    I've put in my tip so it's over to @Dee Zephyr  to lead things off then @Wadda We Sing  then @binman  to finish things off with a couple of placegetters. 

    Good luck Gentlemen!

    Lets hope my placegetters don't win again

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    14 minutes ago, Macca said:

    It's settled then ...

    Ascot  Race 7  Belmont Sprint  1400m  Group 3  150k  Sat  6.15pm

    • W/2/3  ????????
    • W/2/3  ????????
    • W/2/3  Pounamu
    • 2/3       ????????
    • 2/3       ????????

    I've put in my tip so it's over to @Dee Zephyr  to lead things off then @Wadda We Sing  then @binman  to finish things off with a couple of placegetters. 

    Good luck Gentlemen!

    By the by Macca i really like racenets form guide lay out. To be honest i don't like doing form online, partly out of habit t i suspect but key reason is i like to mark the form with a highlighter as i do it (things that appeal, horse i select) then mark the horses at the ned of the process i have selected in each race. Another big factor is i do my form on the train often (or out and about) and using the phone is pretty hopeless

    I find each online form has its strengths but each misses something, for example official ratings - so i often look at multiple sites. I like racing.com's form, but they only have vic races. Punters.com is probably the best i have seen (and actully really good on the phone) till now but race.net is better. 

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    4 minutes ago, binman said:

    By the by Macca i really like racenets form guide lay out. To be honest i don't like doing form online, partly out of habit t i suspect but key reason is i like to mark the form with a highlighter as i do it (things that appeal, horse i select) then mark the horses at the ned of the process i have selected in each race. Another big factor is i do my form on the train often (or out and about) and using the phone is pretty hopeless

    I find each online form has its strengths but each misses something, for example official ratings - so i often look at multiple sites. I like racing.com's form, but they only have vic races. Punters.com is probably the best i have seen (and actully really good on the phone) till now but race.net is better. 

    Is that why you prefer Sat mornings so you can get the latest form guide in the paper?

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    6 minutes ago, binman said:

    Lets hope my placegetters don't win again

    Ha!  I play around with our picks in terms of maybe boxing the 5 in a trifecta and settling on a 33% - 50% payout and adding a horse of my own in a 2-4-6-6 First4 ($20 outlay delivers 30% - boosted)

    But it depends on what horses we nominate and the depth of the winning chances .... I reckon the 3 - 5 - 5 is a good base to work from especially with the input from the 4 of us. 

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    50 minutes ago, Macca said:

    It's settled then ...

    Ascot  Race 7  Belmont Sprint  1400m  Group 3  150k  Sat  6.15pm

    • W/2/3  ????????
    • W/2/3  ????????
    • W/2/3  Pounamu
    • 2/3       ????????
    • 2/3       ????????

    I've put in my tip so it's over to @Dee Zephyr  to lead things off then @Wadda We Sing  then @binman  to finish things off with a couple of placegetters. 

    Good luck Gentlemen!

     Battle Hero (4)  for me fellas. 

    Edited by Dee Zephyr

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    8 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

     Battle Hero (4)  for me fellas. 

    7. Falcon Crest for me. Horse is in form, W Pike on board, it will do something.

    Edited by Wadda We Sing

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