A Day at the Races

[Macca 16,768]

12 minutes ago, binman said:

My tips and betting strategy for the day is as follows (with best bets bolded).

Caulfield

Race 1  no 1 Goldstream  win
Race 2  no 9 Pure elation  win
Race 3  no 7 Seberate and no 9 Ben Hucules both  win
Race 4  no 1 Gailo Chop  win
Race 5  no  1 Shoals win and  place no 6 Smart coupe
Race 6  no  2 Super Cash win
Race 7  no 10 Scarecrow  and box trif 1,2, 10 
Race 8  no 10 Tshahitsi  and 1 units win & place on no 5 Lord  of the Sky
Race 9  no 8 Fragonard win and saver on no 12 Barchetta 

JC Mark Zahra

Warwick Farm

Race 1 no 1 Satin Slipper 
Race 3  trifecta in order 3,7,5 for 1 unit
Race 4  no 7 O’lordy win
Race 5 no  1 Sanctimonius win
Race 6  no 1 Single bullet place
Race 7  no 4 Bonny Reilly win and quin 2 and 4
Race 9  no 6 Echo effect win

JC Blake Shinn 

Morphettville
Race 5 no  1 Itz Invincible win
 

good luck punters!
 

Wow ... that's a lot of work binman. 

So out of the 4 best bets that you've highlighted,  have you got 1 of them as your absolute standout?  It can't be a horse in a race which has been picked already. 

These are the best bets so far

Caulfield Race 4 No 1 Gailo Chop (Wadda)

Warwick Farm Race 7 No 2 Eqyptian Symbol (Macca)

Warwick Farm Race 8 No 4 Show A Star (Demon 77)

 

[Dee Zephyr 19,250]

We're up and running, terrific finish to the first at Caulfield. 

[binman 42,169]

7 minutes ago, Macca said:

Wow ... that's a lot of work binman. 

So out of the 4 best bets that you've highlighted,  have you got 1 of them as your absolute standout?  It can't be a horse in a race which has been picked already. 

These are the best bets so far

Caulfield Race 4 No 1 Gailo Chop (Wadda)

Warwick Farm Race 7 No 2 Eqyptian Symbol (Macca)

Warwick Farm Race 8 No 4 Show A Star (Demon 77)

 

Shoals i would have to say in Caulfield but Itz invicible is a good thing and in a very small field reasonable value, so lets say Itz invicible  

  I bet with a mate and he does all the actual bets (i can't manage online bookies - too dangerous) and i do the selections and email accross to him. I have cut and pasted above and edited to remove staking.   

[binman 42,169]

2 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

We're up and running, terrific finish to the first at Caulfield. 

Down hearted was another horse i though was way unders. Just not a winner

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Thanks for the input Binman. Some interesting picks there.

[Macca 16,768]

2 minutes ago, binman said:

Shoals i would have to say in Caulfield but Itz invicible is a good thing and in a very small field reasonable value, so lets say Itz invicible  

  I bet with a mate and he does all the actual bets (i can't manage online bookies - too dangerous) and i do the selections and email accross to him. I have cut and pasted above and edited to remove staking.   

I had a strong feeling you'd go with Itz Invincible binman ... I figured that you'd either run out of races in Melb or Syd to find a standout or you'd do a quick peruse of the races at Morphettville anyway. 

So last night I had a look at the races at Morphettville and I could only find 1 absolute standout - Itz Invincible.  lol. 

So Gents,  here are the 4 standout best bets ...

 

Caulfield Race 4 No 1 Gailo Chop (Wadda)

Morphettville Race 5 No 1 Itz Invincible (binman)

Warwick Farm Race 7 No 2 Eqyptian Symbol (Macca)

Warwick Farm Race 8 No 4 Show A Star (Demon 77)

 

Good luck with those 4 fellas and good punting to all!

 

[binman 42,169]

Looks like i'm right that the track is a bit leadrish. 

I have always thought Punter's Lament would be a great name for a horse. I have had my fist punters lament for the carnival already. Hayes has dome brillinatly with 2 years olds in the filast 2-3 years and i had planned to back his horses in race 2 and 3. Late change of mind say me just do so in the 3rd race and going with Pure elation instead in the second. Annoying to see Enbihaar win at 10s and then my two outsiders get back and have no chance in the next.

[Dee Zephyr 19,250]

4 minutes ago, binman said:

Looks like i'm right that the track is a bit leadrish. 

I have always thought Punter's Lament would be a great name for a horse. I have had my fist punters lament for the carnival already. Hayes has dome brillinatly with 2 years olds in the filast 2-3 years and i had planned to back his horses in race 2 and 3. Late change of mind say me just do so in the 3rd race and going with Pure elation instead in the second. Annoying to see Enbihaar win at 10s and then my two outsiders get back and have no chance in the next.

Looks like the track is playing like that at the moment, although your first selection in Goldstream made up a lot of ground from last. 

Classic, I'll tell my mate to name his next horse "Punters Lament".

[binman 42,169]

1 minute ago, Demon77 said:

Looks like the track is playing like that at the moment, although your first selection in Goldstream made up a lot of ground from last. 

Classic, I'll tell my mate to name his next horse "Punters Lament".

Its funny, there always seems to be one or two horses that makes up ground on leaders tracks. Like Seberate (at 15-1) who i backed in the last. I reckon some horse like having 2 or 3 to chase and relax into it.

The problem comes lining that form up next time and i reckon many tipsters over rate how good the run was ('made ground against the pattern' blah blah blah). Leaders tracks are a real issue, particularly at Caulfield. Some horse simply don't have chance either because they miss the kick, have poor luck in running or are natural swoopers and don't like racing on speed. 

The problem for me is i do my form and we put all of our bets on a the start of the day so if i guess it is going to be really leaderish and i'm wrong i'm in trouble. Also by the end of the day it oftens evens up (which i take into account) but not always!

[Dee Zephyr 19,250]

7 minutes ago, binman said:

Its funny, there always seems to be one or two horses that makes up ground on leaders tracks. Like Seberate (at 15-1) who i backed in the last. I reckon some horse like having 2 or 3 to chase and relax into it.

The problem comes lining that form up next time and i reckon many tipsters over rate how good the run was ('made ground against the pattern' blah blah blah). Leaders tracks are a real issue, particularly at Caulfield. Some horse simply don't have chance either because they miss the kick, have poor luck in running or are natural swoopers and don't like racing on speed. 

The problem for me is i do my form and we put all of our bets on a the start of the day so if i guess it is going to be really leaderish and i'm wrong i'm in trouble. Also by the end of the day it oftens evens up (which i take into account) but not always!

It took me a while to learn. I was one of those early days where I would follow a horse based on a horse absolutely flying home for a close up fourth or fifth in its last run. Those runs actually take a lot out of a horse and what looks like a "good thing" next start, would amount to the opposite. 

 

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

26 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

Looks like the track is playing like that at the moment, although your first selection in Goldstream made up a lot of ground from last. 

Classic, I'll tell my mate to name his next horse "Punters Lament".

I always wanted to name a horse, "Beyond the Pale"      as in there is life beyond the feed bucket and/or this is too much to bear !

...and Gailo Chop salutes....well picked me...!

Edited February 10, 2018 by Wadda We Sing

[Dee Zephyr 19,250]

2 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

I always wanted to name a horse, "Beyond the Pale"      as in there is life beyond the feed bucket and/or this is too much to bear !

...and Gailo Chop salutes....well picked me...!

Strong win Wadda. Now for the rest of the "Best".

[Macca 16,768]

Good start to the day with Gailo Chop (well done @Wadda We Sing)... as per usual I completely ignored the first few races at Caul & the Farm.  Too hard.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

9 minutes ago, Macca said:

Good start to the day with Gailo Chop (well done @Wadda We Sing)... as per usual I completely ignored the first few races at Caul & the Farm.  Too hard.

I often do that as well...start proceedings around race 4 or 5 because the early ones are just a lottery at a lot of meetings.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Well that was a heartstopper!! Well done @binman. 2/2....no pressure guys..haha.

[Macca 16,768]

10 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Well that was a heartstopper!! Well done @binman. 2/2....no pressure guys..haha.

The great bit is that we're not flying solo with this multi idea ... the team aspect makes it slightly less nerve-racking. 

But nevertheless,  it's still nerve-racking!

I completely forgot that I had a small trifecta going in Gailo Chop race - small dividend but a win is a win.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

3 minutes ago, Macca said:

The great bit is that we're not flying solo with this multi idea ... the team aspect makes it slightly less nerve-racking. 

But nevertheless,  it's still nerve-racking!

I completely forgot that I had a small trifecta going in Gailo Chop race - small dividend but a win is a win.

Winners are grinners...well done.

Love the team aspect.

Ive taken Merchant Navy 1 out in the quaddie...fingers crossed.

Edited February 10, 2018 by Wadda We Sing

[binman 42,169]

59 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Well that was a heartstopper!! Well done @binman. 2/2....no pressure guys..haha.

Never in doubt!

[Dee Zephyr 19,250]

Petracca is about to race in the first at Darwin, showing $13. I'd rather watch the Christian version run around.

Edited February 10, 2018 by Demon77

[Macca 16,768]

The winner far too good there ... no prizes for 2nd.  I've still got Show A Star in a couple of 'saver' multi's so all is not lost. 

[Dee Zephyr 19,250]

The Orr delivered a brilliant finish. Thoroughly enjoyed the race even though I was cheering Brave Smash home.

It's been fun today fellas, good luck for the rest of the day.

Edited February 10, 2018 by Demon77

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

18 minutes ago, Macca said:

The winner far too good there ... no prizes for 2nd.  I've still got Show A Star in a couple of 'saver' multi's so all is not lost. 

They said Egyptian been racing in Qld and all the horses that had come down from there that raced today, havent done much. Show a Star looks good in the yard.

[Macca 16,768]

1 minute ago, Wadda We Sing said:

They said Egyptian been racing in Qld and all the horses that had come down from there that raced today, havent done much. Show a Star looks good in the yard.

Why didn't they tell us that stuff a few days ago?  ha ha

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

2 minutes ago, Macca said:

Why didn't they tell us that stuff a few days ago?  ha ha

I know I know....lost count of how many times you find out a piece of vital info post race.

[Macca 16,768]

21 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

I know I know....lost count of how many times you find out a piece of vital info post race.

There's too much information to take in Wadda ... that's why this thread is ultra helpful.  We're still in the very early stages - as time goes on the info swapped about will take on more significance.

Anyway,  'Show A Star' salutes so that's the treble (within the 4 pick)  I've doubled my outlay by utilising the saver multi's and I hope you blokes got a collect as well. 

3 from 4 is always going to show a good return so the system held up (at least that's the way I'm approaching it)

Great win by Hartnell in the Orr Stakes too - what a class act that horse is.  A blanket finish though,  all the same.  My pick (Dollar for Dollar) just couldn't get a clear run at them.

Edited February 10, 2018 by Macca