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12 hours ago, nutbean said:

Hmmm.. you did leave out years of research and study in their given fields, unless you believe that advances in say, medicine and technology are more down to good luck than any expertise in their given fields. I am not saying that scientist’s are infallible but the sheer weight of qualified people worried about overall direction of climate change may leave me sceptical about the world ending tomorrow but does have me paying attention to what they are saying.

phew!

 

The scientists don't regard themselves as infallible. That's not how it works. They're all just theories that are regarded as the best we've got until somebody comes along and disproves them.

 

To regard that as "religion" is moving out into fruitcake territory. 

6 hours ago, daisycutter said:

phew!

having said that I will quote the ancient philosopher Plato on his wisdom regarding sorting fact from fiction

And I quote...

"if it walks like a duck, smells like a duck and quacks like a duck - it is probably a duck"

 
2 minutes ago, Jara said:

The scientists don't regard themselves as infallible. That's not how it works. They're all just theories that are regarded as the best we've got until somebody comes along and disproves them.

 

To regard that as "religion" is moving out into fruitcake territory. 

but....i was referring to you, jara, with your unswerving acceptance and lack of skepticism :P

5 minutes ago, nutbean said:

having said that I will quote the ancient philosopher Plato on his wisdom regarding sorting fact from fiction

And I quote...

"if it walks like a duck, smells like a duck and quacks like a duck - it is probably a duck"

if you are going to quote greek philosophers, nut, don't forget the skeptics like pyrrho, timon, arceesilaus, carneades, aensidemus and especially sextus :o

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    15 hours ago, daisycutter said:

    if you are going to quote greek philosophers, nut, don't forget the skeptics like pyrrho, timon, arceesilaus, carneades, aensidemus and especially sextus :o

    i haven't had sextus in a long time

     
    13 hours ago, daisycutter said:

    From Nice Age to Ice Age: Drastic Global Cool-down Predicted

     

    must be true......scientists said so

    It's bloody complicated, I'll give you that. I remember reading this most book on climate a few years ago - sorry, forgotten the name, but it was reputable - , and it pointed out that we've been living in a gradually warming climate for the past 15,000 years - the period in which civilisation has arisen - and that a new Ice Age was overdue. 

     

    Throw anthropogenic global warming into the mix and god knows what we're going to get. 

     

    One thing though - those natural changes seemed to be much slower, and longer lasting. The recent global warming is happening much more rapidly. And, given that we've built up a society totally dependant on stability and technology, we could be in real trouble - particularly since we seem hell-bent on overpopulating it. My god, can you imagine Australia with 50 million people? Melbourne with - what are they aiming for? 7, 10 million? All the richest farming land filled up with brick-venereal estates? Traffic permanently jammed? No industry left, immigration the only sector of the economy still working? Country turning into a giant Ponzi scheme - it'll probably collapse about the time I hit the old folks' home and need it. And we still won't have won an effin premiership.

     

    Excuse early morning rant - too much coffee. 

     

     

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    34 minutes ago, Jara said:

    It's bloody complicated, I'll give you that. I remember reading this most book on climate a few years ago - sorry, forgotten the name, but it was reputable - , and it pointed out that we've been living in a gradually warming climate for the past 15,000 years - the period in which civilisation has arisen - and that a new Ice Age was overdue. 

     

    Throw anthropogenic global warming into the mix and god knows what we're going to get. 

     

    One thing though - those natural changes seemed to be much slower, and longer lasting. The recent global warming is happening much more rapidly. And, given that we've built up a society totally dependant on stability and technology, we could be in real trouble - particularly since we seem hell-bent on overpopulating it. My god, can you imagine Australia with 50 million people? Melbourne with - what are they aiming for? 7, 10 million? All the richest farming land filled up with brick-venereal estates? Traffic permanently jammed? No industry left, immigration the only sector of the economy still working? Country turning into a giant Ponzi scheme - it'll probably collapse about the time I hit the old folks' home and need it. And we still won't have won an effin premiership.

     

    Excuse early morning rant - too much coffee. 

     

     

    did you have any soylent green with your coffee?

    52 minutes ago, Jara said:

     

     

    One thing though - those natural changes seemed to be much slower, and longer lasting. The recent global warming is happening much more rapidly. And, given that we've built up a society totally dependant on stability and technology, we could be in real trouble - particularly since we seem hell-bent on overpopulating it. My god, can you imagine Australia with 50 million people? Melbourne with - what are they aiming for? 7, 10 million? All the richest farming land filled up with brick-venereal estates? Traffic permanently jammed? No industry left, immigration the only sector of the economy still working? Country turning into a giant Ponzi scheme - it'll probably collapse about the time I hit the old folks' home and need it. And we still won't have won an effin premiership.

     

     

     

     

    Thanks Jara - could you please direct me to the closest tall building so i can throw myself off....

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    6 hours ago, daisycutter said:

    did you have any soylent green with your coffee?

    Hmmm - never seen the film,  wasn't sure what it is, so I looked it up.

    First reading, it's soy and lentils, so yes, I have that often. On closer reading, it's people. I've eaten lots of things in my life, but, as far as I know, not them. 

    7 hours ago, Jara said:

    Hmmm - never seen the film,  wasn't sure what it is, so I looked it up.

    First reading, it's soy and lentils, so yes, I have that often. On closer reading, it's people. I've eaten lots of things in my life, but, as far as I know, not them. 

    So you’re not a humanitarian then?

    8 hours ago, hardtack said:

    So you’re not a humanitarian then?

    Not bad - I'll pay that - I used to chew my nails when I was a kid, so I suppose I have eaten bits of people - well, one person :-(

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    On 20/03/2018 at 9:22 AM, Jara said:

    It's bloody complicated, I'll give you that. I remember reading this most book on climate a few years ago - sorry, forgotten the name, but it was reputable - , and it pointed out that we've been living in a gradually warming climate for the past 15,000 years - the period in which civilisation has arisen - and that a new Ice Age was overdue. 

     

    Throw anthropogenic global warming into the mix and god knows what we're going to get. 

     

    One thing though - those natural changes seemed to be much slower, and longer lasting. The recent global warming is happening much more rapidly. And, given that we've built up a society totally dependant on stability and technology, we could be in real trouble - particularly since we seem hell-bent on overpopulating it. My god, can you imagine Australia with 50 million people? Melbourne with - what are they aiming for? 7, 10 million? All the richest farming land filled up with brick-venereal estates? Traffic permanently jammed? No industry left, immigration the only sector of the economy still working? Country turning into a giant Ponzi scheme - it'll probably collapse about the time I hit the old folks' home and need it. And we still won't have won an effin premiership.

     

    Excuse early morning rant - too much coffee. 

     

     

    Would you care to advise the rest of us what recent years have had rapid global warming?

    don’t forget this is measurable so the normal global warming scare into the future won’t work.

    i’m guessing you will come up empty.

    23 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

    Would you care to advise the rest of us what recent years have had rapid global warming?

    don’t forget this is measurable so the normal global warming scare into the future won’t work.

    i’m guessing you will come up empty.

    What’s your acceptable definition of rapid Wrecker,  given you only measure trends in millions of years? 

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    12 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

    What’s your acceptable definition of rapid Wrecker,  given you only measure trends in millions of years? 

    8567bc was a bugger of a year, earl........particularly nasty in hipsroy too

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    21 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

    What’s your acceptable definition of rapid Wrecker,  given you only measure trends in millions of years? 

    You said the obvious. How is the trend in millions of years? I'd really appreciate your answer.

    you won't answer this because it demonstrates how hopelessly conflictited you are.

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    Just a bit of house keeping here. I assume this thread should also be locked based on the no politics, no religious, no ideological discussion edict. Climate Change should be purely about the science and the observed data but we all know it has been politicised by some so let’s shut this one down before I have a swipe at Andrew Bolt! 

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