Jump to content

Jonathan Simpkin

Featured Replies

Posted

Hawthorn has delisted the 28yo

I would think hes worth a look at..as a DFA ?

 

I'd certainly look at it.

comes from Hawthorn.

imo would be in our 22

great experience

knows what it takes to win premierships

costs nothing

could still have 3-4 good years left.

He gets at least 25 touches nearly every time he isn't the sub but that's at Hawthorn. I'm not sure he brings much more to the table than someone younger from a state league. Sam Menegola would be worth a punt ahead of Simpkin, in my opinion.

 

Maybe we should wait and see who is the premiership player allegedly involved in the recent sexual assault allegations against 2 Hawthorn players.

How would we fit him on our list though?

If we are taking four live picks to the draft, then we still need to delist one player as it is..


  • Author

I'd certainly look at it.

comes from Hawthorn.

imo would be in our 22

great experience

knows what it takes to win premierships

costs nothing

could still have 3-4 good years left.

pretty well sums up my thoughts and reason for op
  • Author

How would we fit him on our list though?

If we are taking four live picks to the draft, then we still need to delist one player as it is..

Chequebook list management

He gets at least 25 touches nearly every time he isn't the sub but that's at Hawthorn. I'm not sure he brings much more to the table than someone younger from a state league. Sam Menegola would be worth a punt ahead of Simpkin, in my opinion.

People keep saying these Hawthorn players are only good because they're in a Hawthorn side that flatters them. Fcs, when do we acknowledge they get games in the best side of the modern era and are obviously better players than most of our spuds that have won 40 games in 8 years. Pay Terlich out and bring Simpkin in.

 
  • Author

Gee Terlich...Jones ( M) --Simpkin ?

Terlich Jones Simpkin ?

We're about to draft ( most likely ) two young raw aspiring mids. Weve made the mistake in teh past of rushing these lads into sides with the hope that they might be the ONE !!

Some kids hit the ground running, some take a while to get up to speed, some just hit the ground. So if we're actually looking to develop our kids as opposed burn them too quickly then yo uneed to surround them and prop them up with players that do two things. One cater to an elementary need /role in the team but also provide a mnetor like role whcih the young can mould themsleves on

If it were simply a choice between fringe players who are borderline ( or are ) NQR and a player, a PREMIERSHIP player , from the current reigning 3peat regimne whos only crime is hes a bit older than some and found it hard to break into the leagues best midfiled but still managed a B & F whilst destroying many an opponent where he WAS playing then why wouldnt you take him if only for 2-3 years whilst the kids at the other end come on

Bit of a no brainer for me

Hes not the best that Hawthorn had but hes from the best the League has got. How many of them do we currently have ?

Is there anyone you guys don't want?

It's a bit like being back in the Neeld days being linked to everyone else's rejects.

28 and over is not an area we need more players in as far as our list goes. Roos, Goody, Mahoney, Viney & Taylor have all talked about their list strategy and it pretty clearly doesn't sound like guys with 1 or 2 years left are part of it.


Is there anyone you guys don't want?

It's a bit like being back in the Neeld days being linked to everyone else's rejects.

28 and over is not an area we need more players in as far as our list goes. Roos, Goody, Mahoney, Viney & Taylor have all talked about their list strategy and it pretty clearly doesn't sound like guys with 1 or 2 years left are part of it.

Agree with this 'stuie'...

  • Author

Is there anyone you guys don't want?

It's a bit like being back in the Neeld days being linked to everyone else's rejects.

28 and over is not an area we need more players in as far as our list goes. Roos, Goody, Mahoney, Viney & Taylor have all talked about their list strategy and it pretty clearly doesn't sound like guys with 1 or 2 years left are part of it.

See again you make an assumption then portray it as fact Simpkin could just as likely play 3-4 years of decent footy

Al anyone here is doing is window shopping. Seeing what is out there. There are bargains to be had for teams attempting to better their depth and bottom 1/4 of its list

Its need be nothing like the Neeld days. How often do premiership mids come on the market when you need mids ?

but hey lets by all means persevere with the still remaining list clogging NQRS

See again you make an assumption then portray it as fact Simpkin could just as likely play 3-4 years of decent footy

Al anyone here is doing is window shopping. Seeing what is out there. There are bargains to be had for teams attempting to better their depth and bottom 1/4 of its list

Its need be nothing like the Neeld days. How often do premiership mids come on the market when you need mids ?

but hey lets by all means persevere with the still remaining list clogging NQRS

Please show me in my post where I posted assumption as fact.

But if you DO want some facts, have a look here:

"MELBOURNE is unlikely to add a delisted free agent in the coming weeks according to general manager of operations Josh Mahoney."

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2015-10-22/dees-unlikely-to-add-delisted-free-agents

"“They were in a group of players we looked at and all three of them fitted into an age bracket that we haven’t got a lot of players on our list – between 21 and 24 years of age – so they all fit into that category,” he said."

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2015-10-22/we-achieved-trade-targets-mahoney

"He fits into our age bracket profile, as he is turns 23 next year and has played 65 games at AFL level for the Giants."

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2015-10-21/pick-no7-bugg-flies-into-dees-from-gws

Maybe we should wait and see who is the premiership player allegedly involved in the recent sexual assault allegations against 2 Hawthorn players.

Won't name the players, but can confirm Simpkin isn't one of them.

  • Author

Is there anyone you guys don't want?

It's a bit like being back in the Neeld days being linked to everyone else's rejects.

28 and over is not an area we need more players in as far as our list goes. Roos, Goody, Mahoney, Viney & Taylor have all talked about their list strategy and it pretty clearly doesn't sound like guys with 1 or 2 years left are part of it.

that would be there Stuie

You say 1 or 2

you might have said possibly 1 or 2 but you assert your opinion as fact


  • Author

Please show me in my post where I posted assumption as fact.

But if you DO want some facts, have a look here:

"MELBOURNE is unlikely to add a delisted free agent in the coming weeks according to general manager of operations Josh Mahoney."

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2015-10-22/dees-unlikely-to-add-delisted-free-agents

"“They were in a group of players we looked at and all three of them fitted into an age bracket that we haven’t got a lot of players on our list – between 21 and 24 years of age – so they all fit into that category,” he said."

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2015-10-22/we-achieved-trade-targets-mahoney

"He fits into our age bracket profile, as he is turns 23 next year and has played 65 games at AFL level for the Giants."

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2015-10-21/pick-no7-bugg-flies-into-dees-from-gws

Yes.. Stuie Mahoney dances the good dance. He also said we wouldnt be trading pick 10

What he said was its UNLIKELY....now that does in and of itself NOT preclude anything..it say unlikely. Keep in mind that was said before some of these options presented themselves.

Also even if your prime objective is players of a certain age group , again that doesnt prevent you from taking some outside of it.

You really should place less weight on what anyone SAYS...its what they DO that counts.

that would be there Stuie

You say 1 or 2

you might have said possibly 1 or 2 but you assert your opinion as fact

Wow, you're really clutching at straws now. Thanks for playing though.

Yes.. Stuie Mahoney dances the good dance. He also said we wouldnt be trading pick 10

What he said was its UNLIKELY....now that does in and of itself NOT preclude anything..it say unlikely. Keep in mind that was said before some of these options presented themselves.

Also even if your prime objective is players of a certain age group , again that doesnt prevent you from taking some outside of it.

You really should place less weight on what anyone SAYS...its what they DO that counts.

Yes, and what did he do? Traded in players in that age bracket and got us another high draft pick.

How many over 28 year olds did we bring in out of curiosity?

  • Author

Yes, and what did he do? Traded in players in that age bracket and got us another high draft pick.

How many over 28 year olds did we bring in out of curiosity?

well done to miss the point Stuie.

your last question makes no sense

well done to miss the point Stuie.

your last question makes no sense

Haha didn't miss the point at all. You said: "You really should place less weight on what anyone SAYS...its what they DO that counts."

I then listed for you what he did.

It makes total sense actually.

Here, I'll phrase it differently for you seeing you're struggling:

Please list for me all the over 28 year olds we brought in during the trade and free agent period.

I'll do the list for you, here it is:


  • Author

Haha didn't miss the point at all. You said: "You really should place less weight on what anyone SAYS...its what they DO that counts."

I then listed for you what he did.

It makes total sense actually.

Here, I'll phrase it differently for you seeing you're struggling:

Please list for me all the over 28 year olds we brought in during the trade and free agent period.

I'll do the list for you, here it is:

None

A question for you Stuie.. How many Premiership mids were available in that same said period ?

None

A question for you Stuie.. How many Premiership mids were available in that same said period ?

Oh hey maybe we should sign up Steven Armstrong too then hey if that's the simple criteria?

I suggested he was not in our age bracket for what we're targeting, I provided you with written articles to back that up as well as the physical evidence of the trade/free agency period.

You've given your opinion.

And then you have a crack at me for stating my opinion as fact....

It seems we are happy with the list balance now. When Roos came on board we lacked players in the over 25 yo bracket. We've recruited some like Vince and Cross and others like Jones who have been kept on have moved into this bracket and leadership.

We retired Crossy this year, would like to have seen him stay on myself but anyway there is a push now to go to the draft for class and trade in some experience at around the 22-24yo mark.

If we were to pick up another player at 28+ there would need to be exceptional reasons such as another younger Cross or a Bernie Vince type. I don't see Simpkin as either of these.

He was a bit player in a premiership who was lucky to be in the right place (Whitecross injury) at the right time and in good form. Subbed on at 3/4 time in the GF maybe technically a premiership mid, more a specialist sub.

Played only one senior game this year and in my opinion and not what we are after.

 
  • Author

It seems we are happy with the list balance now. When Roos came on board we lacked players in the over 25 yo bracket. We've recruited some like Vince and Cross and others like Jones who have been kept on have moved into this bracket and leadership.

We retired Crossy this year, would like to have seen him stay on myself but anyway there is a push now to go to the draft for class and trade in some experience at around the 22-24yo mark.

If we were to pick up another player at 28+ there would need to be exceptional reasons such as another younger Cross or a Bernie Vince type. I don't see Simpkin as either of these.

He was a bit player in a premiership who was lucky to be in the right place (Whitecross injury) at the right time and in good form. Subbed on at 3/4 time in the GF maybe technically a premiership mid, more a specialist sub.

Played only one senior game this year and in my opinion and not what we are after.

thats fair enough. Given the lofty heights of the Hawthorn Midfield, and as reigning premiers Id be inclined to give that serious kudos Where would you put Simpkin if rating OUR Midfield..In it ...or not ?

Hey stuie, sorry if I ruffled your feathers the other day, I've been feeling niggly.

PS> My aim is to have fun here not to get into fights.

Edit} Can I say niggly? Is it derived from anything? Damn, sorry if I have offended, life can be fraught.


Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Featured Content

  • CASEY: Sydney

    The Casey Demons were always expected to emerge victorious in their matchup against the lowly-ranked Sydney Swans at picturesque Tramway Oval, situated in the shadows of the SCG in Moore Park. They dominated the proceedings in the opening two and a half quarters of the game but had little to show for it. This was primarily due to their own sloppy errors in a low-standard game that produced a number of crowded mauls reminiscent of the rugby game popular in old Sydney Town. However, when the Swans tired, as teams often do when they turn games into ugly defensive contests, Casey lifted the standard of its own play and … it was off to the races. Not to nearby Randwick but to a different race with an objective of piling on goal after goal on the way to a mammoth victory. At the 25-minute mark of the third quarter, the Demons held a slender 14-point lead over the Swans, who are ahead on the ladder of only the previous week's opposition, the ailing Bullants. Forty minutes later, they had more than fully compensated for the sloppiness of their earlier play with a decisive 94-point victory, that culminated in a rousing finish which yielded thirteen unanswered goals. Kicks hit their targets, the ball found itself going through the middle and every player made a contribution.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 1 reply
  • REPORT: St. Kilda

    Hands up if you thought, like me, at half-time in yesterday’s game at TIO Traeger Park, Alice Springs that Melbourne’s disposal around the ground and, in particular, its kicking inaccuracy in front of the goals couldn’t get any worse. Well, it did. And what’s even more damning for the Melbourne Football Club is that the game against St Kilda and its resurgence from the bottomless pit of its miserable start to the season wasn’t just lost through poor conversion for goal but rather in the 15 minutes when the entire team went into a slumber and was mugged by the out-of-form Saints. Their six goals two behinds (one goal less than the Demons managed for the whole game) weaved a path of destruction from which they were unable to recover. Ross Lyon’s astute use of pressure to contain the situation once they had asserted their grip on the game, and Melbourne’s self-destructive wastefulness, assured that outcome. The old adage about the insanity of repeatedly doing something and expecting a different result, was out there. Two years ago, the score line in Melbourne’s loss to the Giants at this same ground was 5 goals 15 behinds - a ratio of one goal per four scoring shots - was perfectly replicated with yesterday’s 7 goals 21 behinds. 
    This has been going on for a while and opens up a number of questions. I’ll put forward a few that come to mind from this performance. The obvious first question is whether the club can find a suitable coach to instruct players on proper kicking techniques or is this a skill that can no longer be developed at this stage of the development of our playing group? Another concern is the team's ability to counter an opponent's dominance during a run on as exemplified by the Saints in the first quarter. Did the Demons underestimate their opponents, considering St Kilda's goals during this period were scored by relatively unknown forwards? Furthermore, given the modest attendance of 6,721 at TIO Traeger Park and the team's poor past performances at this venue, is it prudent to prioritize financial gain over potentially sacrificing valuable premiership points by relinquishing home ground advantage, notwithstanding the cultural significance of the team's connection to the Red Centre? 

      • Thanks
    • 4 replies
  • PREGAME: Collingwood

    After a disappointing loss in Alice Springs the Demons return to the MCG to take on the Magpies in the annual King's Birthday Big Freeze for MND game. Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Thanks
    • 194 replies
  • PODCAST: St. Kilda

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 2nd June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we have a chat with former Demon ruckman Jeff White about his YouTube channel First Use where he dissects ruck setups and contests. We'll then discuss the Dees disappointing loss to the Saints in Alice Springs.
    Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
    Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

      • Thanks
    • 47 replies
  • POSTGAME: St. Kilda

    After kicking the first goal of the match the Demons were always playing catch up against the Saints in Alice Spring and could never make the most of their inside 50 entries to wrestle back the lead.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 330 replies
  • VOTES: St. Kilda

    Max Gawn still has a massive lead in the Demonland Player of the Year award as Christian Petracca, Jake Bowey, Clayton Oliver & Kozzy Pickett round out the Top 5. Your votes please. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 31 replies