Jones was always a good gutsy player, he's just matured, Neeld has not improved anyone, they've gone backwards

Fair point well made.

I guess he also gave Jones the opertunity to be our no 1 go to mid, where Bailey had preferred Moloney

Only Nathan Jones, Tom McDonald and Max Gawn (who would have improved anyway), as well as Mitch Clark. Lynden Dunn is another who has possibly improved.

So BH, do you care to name any that have gone backwards as a direct result of Neeld's coaching?

It's actually a very simple answer - the entire 85%.

One thing football clubs know is that they must improve to even maintain their position, as clubs are getting better each year. If you're not improving you're going backwards.

Ho hum.....another "kick Neeld" thread.

I can't be bothered counting, but I would guess that there are maybe 30 going around.

I might start one next time that I am really bored.....maybe a "who will be sacked first, Gillard or Neeld?"

What dates the election? If it is before the end of the season then Gillard, if it's after then Neeld.

Ho hum.....another "kick Neeld" thread.

I can't be bothered counting, but I would guess that there are maybe 30 going around.

I might start one next time that I am really bored.....maybe a "who will be sacked first, Gillard or Neeld?"

So every player other than Jamar is either as good or better than they were before, yet we're losing more often and by more? Justify this, please.

We are losing more often and by more because the people playing in our side this year are significantly different from the ones playing in our side last year or the year before that. Many of them are playing in different roles and it has been clearly demonstrated that the large margins are largely due to the midfield turnovers which continue to plague us and are a direct result of a gameplan that asks them to kick rather than handball and run. Many of the players I have listed were not playing senior games under Bailey or for most of last year. Some are still not playing senior games but are becoming dominant figures at Casey when they were previously barely commanding a spot. In all I can see the improvement as individuals. The team improvement will come with better co-ordination and more confident passing.

Jones was always a good gutsy player, he's just matured, Neeld has not improved anyone, they've gone backwards

So Jones has improved, but you don't think Neeld can claim any credit for it?

Jones was always a good gutsy player, he's just matured, Neeld has not improved anyone, they've gone backwards

Jones was not always the courageous hard-at-it leader we see today. When he started with Melbourne he didn't chase, tackle or make second efforts; he is massively improved as a player since then and whilst not solely due to Neeld and Misson they have contributed to his steady improvement!