On 29/04/2013 at 08:00, stuie said:

I agree his tackling is weak, no argument there.

Honestly, if you can find a way to watch the game with no bias you will notice how often Watts was busting his gut as the only player chasing, and he was knackered from it.

That fact you called his two goals "cheap" tells me how unbiased your opinion is.

Any chance at all of both clark and dawes being right to play?

  On 29/04/2013 at 08:15, Demonfan26 said:

Any chance at all of both clark and dawes being right to play?

Find out for sure on Thursday, but from what I can tell Dawes will need another week at least at VFL and I have a bad feeling about Clark, don't think we'll see him this week.

  On 29/04/2013 at 08:15, Demonfan26 said:

Any chance at all of both clark and dawes being right to play?

Any chance of getting some actual decent and honest information about our main/best forwards injury?

  On 29/04/2013 at 08:21, The Song Formerly Known As said:

Any chance of getting some actual decent and honest information about our main/best forwards injury?

It's abit of a worry isn't it, Hope the big fella is okay.

  On 29/04/2013 at 08:21, The Song Formerly Known As said:

Any chance of getting some actual decent and honest information about our main/best forwards injury?

Just pray it's not the ill-fated "4-6 weeks"

Out: Mcdonald Mckenzie

In: Strauss Kent

fb- nicholson frawley garland

hb- grimes pedersen terlich

c- sylvia mckeznie trengove

hf-howe watts evans

ff- dawes gawn byrnes

foll- jamar, jones,viney

int- rodan, jones, bail (sub blease )

outs- tapscott: too ineffective

mcdonald: needs a rest and a confidence boost

davey: too ineffective

ins- nicholson: straight to yarran/garlett/betts

dawes: paid to be a goal kicking big man

viney: because we NEED him

  On 29/04/2013 at 07:44, the master said:

Haha you are kidding. What about plenty of easy marks his opponent took whilst he trailed in behind. What about his tackling attempts that are just wrapping the arms around. No shoulder or force behind it.

His game on the weekend to me was a couple of kicks from the backline, 2 cheap goals and only one attempt when he actually jumped at the ball in the air.

Watts signature move is half hearted, it has been since he entered the league.

exactly, you are spot on.

  On 29/04/2013 at 08:24, stuie said:

Just pray it's not the ill-fated "4-6 weeks"

If i ever hurt myself (*touch wood*) and the doctor gives me a 4-6 week recovery diagnosis, i'll be sure to buy a coffin the same day.

Thanks MFC.

  On 29/04/2013 at 08:25, rolly said:

fb- nicholson frawley garland

hb- grimes pedersen terlich

c- sylvia mckeznie trengove

hf-howe watts evans

ff- dawes gawn byrnes

foll- jamar, jones,viney

int- rodan, jones, bail (sub blease )

outs- tapscott: too ineffective

mcdonald: needs a rest and a confidence boost

davey: too ineffective

ins- nicholson: straight to yarran/garlett/betts

dawes: paid to be a goal kicking big man

viney: because we NEED him

Couldn't disagree anymore, i have felt this year that Tappy has really taken some positive steps forward in his regards to his development.

He is starting to play and own that role on the Half forward flank and become a necessary/important part of the team.

When we FINALLY have a forward set up of Dawes and Clark, Tapscott will only improve even more from this.

Its so funny hearing all the supporters requesting to drop David Rodan! I read so many supporters asking him to come into the side when he dominated for Casey. Fact of the matter is is that he is no better than any other midfielder in our team. He barely touched it against Brisbane and had been rubbish in his other games for the dees. Him and Gillies have been a waste of draft picks. I'm not actually sure why he was recruited? for leadership maybe? Because he cant get the ball.

Anyhow, yes i think he should be dropped. Strauss must be given a game. As others have said play Grimes in the middle, we cant get any worse.

McDonald for Sellar is pointless. McDonald will be a good backman and bringing in Sellar will not help us anyway as he is a spud.

In: Strauss, Dunn

Out: Rodan, Pederson

  On 29/04/2013 at 08:48, The Song Formerly Known As said:

Couldn't disagree anymore, i have felt this year that Tappy has really taken some positive steps forward in his regards to his development.

He is starting to play and own that role on the Half forward flank and become a necessary/important part of the team.

When we FINALLY have a forward set up of Dawes and Clark, Tapscott will only improve even more from this.

Took some great marks yesterday too.

As I've said to a lot of the Watts haters, watching the game for a second time should be obligatory before trying to make definitive statements on players.

Tappy was good enough to get another game this week.

  On 29/04/2013 at 08:51, _becks_ said:

Its so funny hearing all the supporters requesting to drop David Rodan! I read so many supporters asking him to come into the side when he dominated for Casey. Fact of the matter is is that he is no better than any other midfielder in our team. He barely touched it against Brisbane and had been rubbish in his other games for the dees. Him and Gillies have been a waste of draft picks. I'm not actually sure why he was recruited? for leadership maybe? Because he cant get the ball.

Anyhow, yes i think he should be dropped. Strauss must be given a game. As others have said play Grimes in the middle, we cant get any worse.

McDonald for Sellar is pointless. McDonald will be a good backman and bringing in Sellar will not help us anyway as he is a spud.

In: Strauss, Dunn

Out: Rodan, Pederson

Totally agree on Rodan and Gillies, but I think Rodan had to get a game against Brisbane due to the (hate to use a buzzword, but..) culture we are trying to create seeing he was BOG for Casey the week before. The same reasoning extends to why Dunn WILL get a game this week. Not because he's the future, but because he earned it.

  On 29/04/2013 at 07:42, Pennant St Dee said:

Re watch yesterdays game and see how ridiculous taking Byrnes out is

it doesn't matter, he's made up his mind that he hates Neeld, and therefore Byrnes, as a symbol of Neeld, must be a failure

  On 29/04/2013 at 09:39, stuie said:

Took some great marks yesterday too.

As I've said to a lot of the Watts haters, watching the game for a second time should be obligatory before trying to make definitive statements on players.

Tappy was good enough to get another game this week.

the only thing I don't like about him is how much he goes to ground.. particularly yesterday when he was outnumbered, you have to try and hold them up in that situation

  On 28/04/2013 at 08:40, the master said:

FB: Terlich Sellar GarlandHB: Grimes Frawley DunnC: Evans Jones ByrnesHF: Tapscott Pedersen VineyFF: Howe Gawn BailFoll: Jamar Trengove SylviaInt: Strauss McKenzie M. Jones KentOut: McDonald, Blease, Rodan, Watts, DaveyIn: Sellar, Dunn, Strauss, Viney, KentTommy McDonald will be a good player for us but he needs a break. Full back isn't his go yet. Lets give Sellar a shot. Similarly its time for Dunn and Strauss to have a go at half back so we can play Evans and Grimes in the midfield. Viney needs to come back.Time to give Kent a go as sub if not full game.I'm not sure about Dawes in for Pedersen or not. It really means little.Please have mercy on our rubbish midfield Carlton

Watts out? Joking right? It was by far his best game of the year and many more would be dropped before him. Get off his back and learn a thing or two about football before commenting. #troll

This early in the week we need to see who comes up and who is injured. Tom Mac needs to go back to casey to find some form and confidence, Rodan and Blease may be good at VFL but they don't cut it at AFL especially against an elite Carlton midfield. Jordy fumbled and just seems off the pace and is a atagger only, so that is 4 out and Davey may need a full game at casey after 2 weeks as sub. That makes 5 out

  On 29/04/2013 at 09:51, Curry & Beer said:

the only thing I don't like about him is how much he goes to ground.. particularly yesterday when he was outnumbered, you have to try and hold them up in that situation

We're disagreeing on a lot, but I totally agree there. Goes to ground too often, he has A LOT of mates there though, Jamar and McKenzie were also culprits of that yesterday (as they often are).

  On 29/04/2013 at 09:55, dbj1983 said:

Watts out? Joking right? It was by far his best game of the year and many more would be dropped before him. Get off his back and learn a thing or two about football before commenting. #troll

Here's a thing about football. When you are a defender your first job is to be on your man. Watts was so bad at it he had to get moved forward. Here's another thing, when you've played been on an Afl list for 5 years you should know how to tackle.

My second post I've decided to keep Watts and play him forward but it's an indictment on him that he has to be moved back to the other end of the ground having failed as a defender. Imagine if you were a chef and had to keep getting moved between desserts and entres because you keep stuffing both up.

Here's a thing or two about life. If you are going to insult someone maybe get all the facts first.

Then you with your 56 posts won't look like such a tool calling me a troll. Stick your hash tag where the sun don't shine.

  On 29/04/2013 at 09:50, Curry & Beer said:

it doesn't matter, he's made up his mind that he hates Neeld, and therefore Byrnes, as a symbol of Neeld, must be a failure

I don't like Neeld. So far I like Byrnes.

There goes yet another of your theories.

Neeld will turn the ship around, I have no doubt of that, his game plan is evident if you look very closely, he exudes charisma and I believe he is tactically superior to Malthouse, I look forward to the coming clash...go dees

  On 29/04/2013 at 10:23, Lordweaver said:

Neeld will turn the ship around, I have no doubt of that, his game plan is evident if you look very closely, he exudes charisma and I believe he is tactically superior to Malthouse, I look forward to the coming clash...go dees

Hahahaha.... Sarcasm right?

  On 29/04/2013 at 07:42, Pennant St Dee said:

Re watch yesterdays game and see how ridiculous taking Byrnes out is

  On 29/04/2013 at 07:43, stuie said:

No.

If we are honestly trying to rebuild our culture we need to play those who deserve it, not just pick players based on their names. Plus, Byrnes out? Geez that's dumb.

So for mine it's:

OUT: Pedo, Rodan, Jamar

IN: Dunn, Spencer, Kent

Watts to take Pedo's spot forward, Dunn to take Watts' spot back.

You watch Byrnes get exposed against Carlton. He'll get less than 6 possessions and have no impact

  On 29/04/2013 at 10:29, Roost It said:

You watch Byrnes get exposed against Carlton. He'll get less than 6 possessions and have no impact

Maybe, maybe not, but he's been good the last two weeks so deserves his chance to play again.

That's how you create a winning culture.