Jump to content

At what point does this become unacceptable?

Featured Replies

Someone like Chocco Williams would be available at the end of the year, regardless of contract obligations.

 
  • Author

Agree with the last bit. Can anyone compile a list of senior coaches coming our of contract at season's end?

Only one I know of at this point is Sheedy. Voss may be too, but we don't want him obviously.

McKenna, Watters, Hinkley, MM, Sanderson, McCartney, Lyon, B. Scott all definitely under contract. I believe Hardwick, Buckley, C. Scott all are too. No idea re: Worsfold, Longmuire. Clarkson up in the air - personally believe Kennett is trying to pull strings to get rid of him. Hird who knows due to the ASADA stuff.

Also the following available (in theory):

- Roos

- Matthews

- Ayres

- Williams

Do you think Roos has even been approached. He wrote a good article on sat about what he would do if he was coaching the demons. Basically said that the game needs to be stripped back to accountable one on one footy.

I reckon if he is given the space, he would relish the challenge of taking the MFC to the top.

But then again, our current Admin put neeld on a 3 year contract, I hope there is a performance clause. Stupid stupid board.

 
  • Author

Do you think Roos has even been approached. He wrote a good article on sat about what he would do if he was coaching the demons. Basically said that the game needs to be stripped back to accountable one on one footy.

I reckon if he is given the space, he would relish the challenge of taking the MFC to the top.

But then again, our current Admin put neeld on a 3 year contract, I hope there is a performance clause. Stupid stupid board.

Sack him and start again. This club needs to realise when it's actually made an error of judgement. Too many times have we sat on our hands taking the safe option. Right now, the safe option is killing our footy club.

Do you think Roos has even been approached. He wrote a good article on sat about what he would do if he was coaching the demons. Basically said that the game needs to be stripped back to accountable one on one footy.

I reckon if he is given the space, he would relish the challenge of taking the MFC to the top.

But then again, our current Admin put neeld on a 3 year contract, I hope there is a performance clause. Stupid stupid board.

Because he wrote an article that sounded good would be a great basis to hire him.

In a year, when his plan has proved no good do you then move on to the next victim?

I've got an extra 15 years on you supporting this train wreck and I'm sick of the revolving door system we employ with coaches.

Well I'm just as sick of that [censored] as you are of not changing coaches, does that make me right and you wrong or vice versa,

Probably not but this time I'd like to see us make the hard decision, and stay the course with Neeld, at least for the rest of this season.

As much as everyone thinks this is his side its not, he has had one draft and is nowhere near cleaning the place out.

He is still paying the price of the previous coaching/recruiting regime.

Understand your point but don't ever mistake disagreeing with someone elses point with being wrong just means their point of view doesn't match yours.


How do supporters accept this?

No-one's accepting this.

Responses differ though.

For mine, for the life of me I cannot see what good can come out of playing under a stand-in coach for the rest of the year.

But then again, our current Admin put neeld on a 3 year contract, I hope there is a performance clause. Stupid stupid board.

McCarthy. Unproven assistant. 3 year contract

Sanderson. Unproven assistant. 3 year contract

Watters. Unproven assistant. 3 year contract

Neeld. Unproven assistant. 3 year contract.

Hinkley. Unproven assistant. 4 year contract.

Something that annoyed me was the quote that if the players didn't play Neeld's way (along the boundary) they "better start saving their petrol tickets for Casey". I mean, if he said that i think it shows foolishness and is the voice of an outsider. Why make Casey an object of ridicule and why make Melbourne an object of ridicule, in the same sentence. There was a reason embraced by the club to set up at Casey, and playing for a seconds team shouldn't be seen as a badge of dishonour, or just as punishment for not following team rules. The non-playing of Watts (in either team) also marks a level of pettiness which is hard to justify and flies in the face of reasons for dropping him in the first place. it seems to me that Neeld's zero tolerance Malthouse style authority needs to buy some petrol tickets if the players are going to go the extra mile for the coach.

 

This is fascinating to read. So do you think McLardy knows Freeman is next in line?

Do you think it's a problem that Foundation Heroes have more control around the club? It's not by chance that some of those people ended up minted. I'd imagine some of them could be ruthless business people.

At the lunch it was mentioned he was voted on because of his strategic planning & management expertise

I would think that to be the main requirement of a President.

I've no doubt the Foundation Heroes have a lot of business acumen and some are very ruthless.

But when they put members on the board, they should allow them to function without bias.

It smells of the "Tail wagging the dog"

If they want to have a say, they should nominate for the board instead of just letting their money do the talking.

Edited by Chippy

Because he wrote an article that sounded good would be a great basis to hire him.

In a year, when his plan has proved no good do you then move on to the next victim?

I've got an extra 15 years on you supporting this train wreck and I'm sick of the revolving door system we employ with coaches.

Well I'm just as sick of that [censored] as you are of not changing coaches, does that make me right and you wrong or vice versa,

Probably not but this time I'd like to see us make the hard decision, and stay the course with Neeld, at least for the rest of this season.

As much as everyone thinks this is his side its not, he has had one draft and is nowhere near cleaning the place out.

He is still paying the price of the previous coaching/recruiting regime.

Understand your point but don't ever mistake disagreeing with someone elses point with being wrong just means their point of view doesn't match yours.

I politely disagree, Football clubs are not longer football clubs, they’re now a business/enterprise. If a project manager of a job fall that far behind, he would be removed without a blink of an eye. The MFC need to realize this is a business and we need to be competitive in the market. If we sit on our hands and this continues, no one will want to come and play through the free agency and there will be a massive walk out next year.

Sometimes partnerships just don’t work. Mark is a smart man, he’ll know if this continues mid season he is gone. The sharks are truly circling and he would certainly know it. Something has to give either it’s the players improve or the coach goes, its one or the other.

We’re not this bad, our list is not that shocking. Something has to give and give soon!!!


Something that annoyed me was the quote that if the players didn't play Neeld's way (along the boundary) they "better start saving their petrol tickets for Casey". I mean, if he said that i think it shows foolishness and is the voice of an outsider. Why make Casey an object of ridicule and why make Melbourne an object of ridicule, in the same sentence. There was a reason embraced by the club to set up at Casey, and playing for a seconds team shouldn't be seen as a badge of dishonour, or just as punishment for not following team rules. The non-playing of Watts (in either team) also marks a level of pettiness which is hard to justify and flies in the face of reasons for dropping him in the first place. it seems to me that Neeld's zero tolerance Malthouse style authority needs to buy some petrol tickets if the players are going to go the extra mile for the coach.

Agreed. If it was Malthouse doing/saying this it would go down easier as he has an aura about him as well as runs on the board over a long & successful career to back up an inflated ego. I appreciate Neeld's conviction but he's approached it as though he was popularly elected & he's using his political capital to push through change. Our admin popularly elected him and gave him a mandate for change - our players didn't. He has seemingly failed to acknowledge this and it's got them offside.

For those that are just fighting with their own demons to accept such losing margins I take solace in what I'm prepared to

accept before I bastardize this club or take a break from them for rest of the yr. each week I'm setting acceptable /realisitc goals to determine improvement. Last week it was to be within 4 goals of W.C at 1/2 time or 10 goals at F/t. They achieved one of them!

This week it will be within a goal to G CS or to win by 12pts. For those who are fighting their own demons with following this shite, then this IMO best approach, outside of drinking myself into a stupor each week

it became unacceptable about half way through the Eseendon game

Neeld is a worse coach than Bailey, as unbelievable as that seems

I fear you are correct. We have not been competitive at all under Neeld's regime - a fluke against Essendon, and wins against the newbies last year - that is all we have to hang our hats on.

Simply not good enough at any level, no matter what excuses are rolled out.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Featured Content

  • WHAT’S NEXT? by The Oracle

    What’s next for a beleagured Melbourne Football Club down in form and confidence, facing  intense criticism and disapproval over some underwhelming recent performances and in the midst of a four game losing streak? Why, it’s Adelaide which boasts the best percentage in the AFL and has won six of its last seven games. The Crows are hot and not only that, the game is at the Adelaide Oval; yet another away fixture and the third in a row at a venue outside of Victoria. One of the problems the Demons have these days is that they rarely have the luxury of true home ground advantage, something they have enjoyed just once since mid April. 

    • 1 reply
  • REPORT: Gold Coast

    From the start, Melbourne’s performance against the Gold Coast Suns at Peoples First Stadium was nothing short of a massive botch up and it came down in the first instance to poor preparation. Rather than adequately preparing the team for battle against an opponent potentially on the skids after suffering three consecutive losses, the Demons looking anything but sharp and ready to play in the opening minutes of the game. By way of contrast, the Suns demonstrated a clear sense of purpose and will to win. From the very first bounce of the ball they were back to where they left off earlier in the season in Round Three when the teams met at the MCG. They ran rings around the Demons and finished the game off with a dominant six goal final term. This time, they produced another dominant quarter to start the game, restricting Melbourne to a solitary point to lead by six goals at the first break, by which time, the game was all but over.

    • 0 replies
  • CASEY: Gold Coast

    Coming off four consecutive victories and with a team filled with 17 AFL listed players, the Casey Demons took to their early morning encounter with the lowly Gold Coast Suns at People First Stadium with the swagger of a team that thought a win was inevitable. They were smashing it for the first twenty minutes of the game after Tom Fullarton booted the first two goals but they then descended into an abyss of frustrating poor form and lackadaisical effort that saw the swagger and the early arrogance disappear by quarter time when their lead was overtaken by a more intense and committed opponent. The Suns continued to apply the pressure in the second quarter and got out to a three goal lead in mid term before the Demons fought back. A late goal to the home side before the half time bell saw them ten points up at the break and another surge in the third quarter saw them comfortably up with a 23 point lead at the final break.

    • 0 replies
  • PREGAME: Rd 17 vs Adelaide

    With their season all over bar the shouting the Demons head back on the road for the third week in a row as they return to Adelaide to take on the Crows. Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Clap
    • 121 replies
  • POSTGAME: Rd 16 vs Gold Coast

    The Demons did not come to play from the opening bounce and let the Gold Coast kick the first 5 goals of the match. They then outscored the Suns for the next 3 quarters but it was too little too late and their season is now effectively over.

      • Like
    • 231 replies
  • VOTES: Rd 16 vs Gold Coast

    Max Gawn has a massive lead in the Demonland Player of the Year award ahead of Jake Bowey, Christian Petracca, Clayton Oliver and Kysaiah Pickett. Your votes please. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1.

      • Clap
      • Haha
      • Like
    • 41 replies