The common theme amongst the group is there isn't a player who's succeeded in the middle of the ground or forward of centre. All the success stories have been behind the centre- a much easier area to perform in.

I had many a discussion with a few posters on here and tried to explain this very point. Not surprisingly to no avail.

I had many a discussion with a few posters on here and tried to explain this very point. Not surprisingly to no avail.

Demonland is full of nuffies.

We get it.

Preview is style over substance for mine. Waste their time and precious words waffling on about something calling Jenga or Zenga.

Quite simply if in previewing the MFC in 2013 you discuss the changes from 2011 to 2012 and don't mention Misson and Jackson then I am not going to take you seriously because your understanding of footy is obviously limited. Footballers are athletes with ball skills and footy smarts. Getting Misson and Jackson to take care of the Athlete part is bloody important for mine. Craig'd be also worthy of a mention.

Some of their calls on our drafting are questionable. They give Scully an X which given the compo picks we received is a bit odd, and they've also X'ed a few players a bit too early.

I bought the prospectus(first time I've read it) this morning and I must say that all these facts and figures gave me a headache......45% of such and such stats which is equal to so much % of league numbers by % of clubs......Same stats for VFL or SANFL which must give someone employment......but unless you want to play DT or Supercoach, it is all meaningless to me......Just my opinon but I won't buy it again and prefer the AFL's Season guide......

Preview is style over substance for mine. Waste their time and precious words waffling on about something calling Jenga or Zenga.

Quite simply if in previewing the MFC in 2013 you discuss the changes from 2011 to 2012 and don't mention Misson and Jackson then I am not going to take you seriously because your understanding of footy is obviously limited. Footballers are athletes with ball skills and footy smarts. Getting Misson and Jackson to take care of the Athlete part is bloody important for mine. Craig'd be also worthy of a mention.

Some of their calls on our drafting are questionable. They give Scully an X which given the compo picks we received is a bit odd, and they've also X'ed a few players a bit too early.

This is true but CD will (should?) rely solely on stats to paint the picture - they won't necessarily account for impact of changes in off-field roles unless as an explanation for changes in output (which haven't really been seen yet).

Sorry for the lack of updates over the past few days, been busy with work and studies. Hopefully I'll get this finished over the next few days, or the weekend at the latest. Cheers

Without wanting to steal BLWNBA's thunder, I thought I might bring up the AFL Prospectus draft prospects section while he's busy with his work etc.

The 2013 AFL Prospectus has a list of the top 25 potential draftees which I will cover elsewhere and which should be a great resource for later in the year. It also looks back at last year's top 25 to determine how it fared with its predictions. The players were:

* Jed Anderson

* Jordan Bourke

* Clay Cameron

* Joe Daniher

* Dayle Garlett

* Brodie Grundy

* Matthew Haynes

* Ben Kennedy

* Sam Mayes

* Liam McBean

* Todd McKay

* Troy Menzel

* Brodie Murdoch

* Jonathan O'Rourke

* Lachlan Plowman

* Mason Shaw

* Josh Simpson

* Tanner Smith

* James Stewart

* Jake Stringer

* Shannon Taylor

* Jimmy Toumpas

* Jack Viney

* Nick Vlastuin

* Lachie Whitfield

Of these, three committed to AFL teams prior to the day of the draft and another 18 were drafted (12 in the first 25, 5 more by pick 40 and Bourke was rookied). The four who missed out due to form, attitude or off-field issues were Garlett, Haynes, McKay and Taylor.

The Prospectus missed out on picking Jackson Macrae (who had then not yet debuted with the Chargers, having missed the final cut from pre-season), Oliver Wines (pushed down the order by a "lack of leg speed and body shape", Kristian Jaksch and Aidan Corr.

I think Melbourne did well to snare two of the better credentialled of the top 25 as well as Jesse Hogan who would otherwise have been a top 25 prospect.

Any chance of finishing the list? No idea where to get the prospectus in Canberra.