I do think he's making it harder for his supporters to continue to back him to get his life in order. I would hope that he does though.

It hurts a little.

Dee, what I'm saying is that none of us can truly know where things are at for Liam, how much he's his own worst enemy and how much he is a victim of his circumstance. Better?

agree, but it is very difficult at this time to feel much for him, other than disbelief in all that has passed in 15 months, & such disappointment.

Talented sociopath.

Is that your expert medical opinion Dr Carrot Top?

Talented sociopath.

So “Chucky” are you a clinical psychologist or a psychiatrist? How many times have you examined or interviewed patient Jurrah.?

Otherwise, to make an unsubstantiated assertion, such as you have made, brands you as a [censored].

I think you can both consider his decline tragic, but at the same time abhor his recent actions.

Agreed, but that would be holding two positions at the same time, which by Demonland standards, is one too many.

So “Chucky” are you a clinical psychologist or a psychiatrist? How many times have you examined or interviewed patient Jurrah.?

Otherwise, to make an unsubstantiated assertion, such as you have made, brands you as a [censored].

That your clinical opinion too, Dr [censored]?

God forbid I speak my mind on the the machete wielding, woman bashing, drink driving scum Liam has become. He [censored] on the club, he [censored] on us, and now he's pissing on himself.

But kiss his boo-boos better and send him on his way if it makes you feel better.

That your clinical opinion too, Dr [censored]?

God forbid I speak my mind on the the machete wielding, woman bashing, drink driving scum Liam has become. He [censored] on the club, he [censored] on us, and now he's pissing on himself.

But kiss his boo-boos better and send him on his way if it makes you feel better.

Scum?

Scum?

Takes scum to know scum.

This guy is not really a diplomat Withnail.

I think you're right Biff

Scum?

Yep. People in jail are scum. It's why we put them there. Y'know, that whole bit about being unfit to be allowed near normal society bit? Do you understand that? Do any of you actually have a working brain that lets you understand that this isn't a bit of bad luck, or a rough trot, but punishment for a serious violent crime? Do you people get that, or does your brain stop working once the word football is mentioned?

Scum.

Takes scum to know scum.

This guy is not really a diplomat Withnail.

I'm not in jail like your scum mate, buddy boy.

Jurrah comes from a third world environment where white man's law doesn't prevail - in their eyes. One of their rules of law is "pay back". If you're an initiated man it's expected. To not follow your own mob's law wouldn't bare thinking about. A world where your native tongue is different from those that set the laws of the land. Let me hasten to add that I'm not suggesting this incident had anything to do with "payback". I'm merely giving an example of what's a completely foreign culture.

Life is all about role models, but I'm guessing they have different values and expectations in Yuendemu. Btw, I'm not an apologist for his actions, but I recognise that he's from a group of people that I can't really cast judgment upon. How could I when I have no understanding ? Needless to say I'd be more forthright on those that have come from mainstream society. I'd be exceedingly vocal in my condemnation.

I just recognise that I'm hopelessly ill-equipped to make sense of his world.

I understand that you have a passion for question marks and a penchant for generalizations that portray you as an idiot of the highest order

God forbid I speak my mind on the the machete wielding ...

In a court of law, found not guilty of machete-wielding. Or of wielding anything for that matter.

In a court of law, found not guilty of machete-wielding. Or of wielding anything for that matter.

That doesn't matter to our good ol boy

I'm not in jail like your scum mate, buddy boy.

FYI-LJ isn't either.

As you presumably have the benefit of speaking and reading English ,you might know this .

However ,given time ,I trust even your bold statement on your freedom will become untrue .

I can only hope.

In a court of law, found not guilty of machete-wielding. Or of wielding anything for that matter.

OJ was innocent too. So was Victor Pierce.

Jurrah comes from a third world environment where white man's law doesn't prevail - in their eyes. One of their rules of law is "pay back". If you're an initiated man it's expected. To not follow your own mob's law wouldn't bare thinking about. I can't begin to understand his world. A world where your native tongue is different from those that set the laws of the land. Let me hasten to add that I'm not suggesting this incident had anything to do with "payback". I'm merely giving an example of what's a completely foreign culture.

Life is all about role models, but I'm guessing they have different values and expectations in Nuendemu. Btw, I'm not an apologist for his actions, but I recognise that he's from a group of people that I can't really cast judgment upon. How could I when I have no understanding ? Needless to say I'd be more forthright on those that have come from mainstream society. I'd be exceedingly vocal in my condemnation.

I just recognise that I'm hopelessly ill-equipped to make sense of his world.

I fear you may be wasting these points on someone who seems to be locked into a 'they're all scum' mantra

However ,given time ,I trust even your bold statement on your freedom will become untrue .

I can only hope.

Bwhahahaha.

Really? That's the best you can do? You've taken one to many balls to the chin in your life, Biffo.

Defend the woman basher, Biff. Defend him hard. It just shows what a sad little man you are.

Nelson Mandela?

Nelson Mandela?

So are you trying to tell me Liam has been fitted up here? Is that where you want to take this? That he is a political prisoner of an unjust government?

Are you sure you want to look more stupid that you already do?

Bwhahahaha.

Really? That's the best you can do? You've taken one to many balls to the chin in your life, Biffo.

Defend the woman basher, Biff. Defend him hard. It just shows what a sad little man you are.

There's an old saying-

Judge not ,lest ye make yourself look like a complete [censored] brain.

Yep. People in jail are scum. It's why we put them there. Y'know, that whole bit about being unfit to be allowed near normal society bit? Do you understand that? Do any of you actually have a working brain that lets you understand that this isn't a bit of bad luck, or a rough trot, but punishment for a serious violent crime? Do you people get that, or does your brain stop working once the word football is mentioned?

Scum.

Check mate

Check mate

You wish. If you want to try and convince any one that Jurrah and Mandela's issues are even remotely similar then you are pushing fudge uphill.